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Dacuj, congrats on the weightloss.

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MONGO LIKE CANDY
 
So where’s @Dacuj now?

He has been advertising Envoy for AA but what’s he got to say now that Piedmont offers a higher paying clear path to AA with the new bonus schemes? If he wants the best Cadets to be hired, does this mean he’s quitting the Envoy special assignment snd demanding he be reassigned to the Piedmont flow pipe recruitment. Keep us posted.
 
So where’s @Dacuj now?

He has been advertising Envoy for AA but what’s he got to say now that Piedmont offers a higher paying clear path to AA with the new bonus schemes? If he wants the best Cadets to be hired, does this mean he’s quitting the Envoy special assignment snd demanding he be reassigned to the Piedmont flow pipe recruitment. Keep us posted.
Well.....over on the other site, he has popped into the Piedmont forum under his new screen name (dacuj) is banned) and is now shilling for Piedmont. Dude should get an award for his commitment to trolling.
 
So where’s @Dacuj now?

He has been advertising Envoy for AA but what’s he got to say now that Piedmont offers a higher paying clear path to AA with the new bonus schemes? If he wants the best Cadets to be hired, does this mean he’s quitting the Envoy special assignment snd demanding he be reassigned to the Piedmont flow pipe recruitment. Keep us posted.
What one WO gets the other two get too, more or less, so moot point.
 
Where else can you go right out of college and step right into your lifelong career at the largest major airline in the world? One interview and when your number comes up you simply transfer.

I was at Airways when Doug brought this plan forward. It was always designed as a cost control measure. It was designed to keep pilots at the regional level at a lower rate that the peers with a guaranteed job offer at mainline. The current bonus proposal is simply a tweak to continue the process. The "flow" is a cost control measure to ensure that trained pilots are readily available when needed.

The company will only pay the minimum amount required to ensure that the supply is available. That has been the intent from the beginning, there is nothing new about this. If this "bonus program" doesn't do it expect some new program proposal in 2022. Ideally the company want's the Union vote to be 51% in favor, the absolute minimum required to accomplish their corporate goal.
 
Well.....over on the other site, he has popped into the Piedmont forum under his new screen name (dacuj) is banned) and is now shilling for Piedmont. Dude should get an award for his commitment to trolling.
You know, channeling some of that energy productively - say, for union work, or even for legitimate management work (of which trolling a bunch of people probably sitting on layover in their underwear is not legitimate management work) - would be marvelous.
 
Where else can you go right out of college and step right into your lifelong career at the largest major airline in the world? One interview and when your number comes up you simply transfer.

I was at Airways when Doug brought this plan forward. It was always designed as a cost control measure. It was designed to keep pilots at the regional level at a lower rate that the peers with a guaranteed job offer at mainline. The current bonus proposal is simply a tweak to continue the process. The "flow" is a cost control measure to ensure that trained pilots are readily available when needed.

The company will only pay the minimum amount required to ensure that the supply is available. That has been the intent from the beginning, there is nothing new about this. If this "bonus program" doesn't do it expect some new program proposal in 2022. Ideally the company want's the Union vote to be 51% in favor, the absolute minimum required to accomplish their corporate goal.
The way it is structured, it's a literal "imma get a tesla when I flow" fund.
You get 30k with a 3 year clawback clause, and then 70-120k on your last paycheck at the regional.
There are other gains for PDT and ENY like getting rid of the 50 seat CA pay and snapping everyone up to the 76 seat rate, basically (which is a decent chunk of cash too, especially for the PDT guys), but mostly it's a promissory note for the future. You do still get it if hired to AA through the front door though, so there's that.
 
Where else can you go right out of college and step right into your lifelong career at the largest major airline in the world? One interview and when your number comes up you simply transfer.

I was at Airways when Doug brought this plan forward. It was always designed as a cost control measure. It was designed to keep pilots at the regional level at a lower rate that the peers with a guaranteed job offer at mainline. The current bonus proposal is simply a tweak to continue the process. The "flow" is a cost control measure to ensure that trained pilots are readily available when needed.

The company will only pay the minimum amount required to ensure that the supply is available. That has been the intent from the beginning, there is nothing new about this. If this "bonus program" doesn't do it expect some new program proposal in 2022. Ideally the company want's the Union vote to be 51% in favor, the absolute minimum required to accomplish their corporate goal.

The flow predates Dougie at Airways. It goes back to a promissory note that was attached to LOA 92, giving carriers who participated in the J4J program a path upward once the J4Js returned home. Unfortunately, the actual language of the flow up was pushed into LOA "TBD" and never happened. When it came time to pay the piper, Lyle Hogg (who ironically is now the president of PDT) had no recollection of every agreeing to anything and with no actual language, us regional trash were stuck watching Airways hire from regionals not in the Express system so as to not cause staffing issues with their feed. It wasn't until 2011 or maybe even 2012 that they agreed to officially interviewing WO pilots (just PSA and PDT at that time) and there wasn't an actual flow up until 2015 or later.
 
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