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I also don’t get riled up over “with you at FL350.”

At FL350
With you at FL350
Checkin in at FL350
Level 350
Here at FL350
etc.


As long as you checked in and we were acknowledged, I couldn’t care less. There’s no nails on the chalkboard with me for ATC verbiage. I try not to stress the small, negligible stuff.
 
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I also don’t get riled up over “with you at FL350.”

At FL350
With you at FL350
Checkin in at FL350
Level 350
Here at FL350
etc.


As long as you checked in and we were acknowledged, I couldn’t care less. There’s no nails on the chalkboard with me for ATC verbiage. I try not to stress the small, negligible stuff.
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As long as you keep that • domestic where you sound like a bunch of talentless hacks to everyone else in the world that somehow speaks better English despite it being a second language.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Some of ya'll be strong type As. Request vs need. Really? I'd say 90% of guys I've seen say "request left/right for weather deviation."

"Requesting FL340" or "putting FL340 on request" gets the same message across.


I dunno. Maybe I need to toughen up my type A game. Or maybe those words aren't enough to get me riled up on my list of "things FOs do!!!!"
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Again, it’s a request only because the next thing that comes out if I get a snappy unable is “we require (___) immediately,” where the blank is something else. I generally don’t ask for (especially) a lateral change unless we really need it. Altitudes yes, course no.

And then after that it becomes “air carrier 1234, we are doing (___).” I’ll work with ATC as able, but at the end of the day we aren’t going through that CB.

I had an FO once do the Mormon nice thing on the radio when dealing with some serious and immediately pressing weather and the answer was “no, you can’t maybe do that.” When my voice popped on in Form 2 above, they suddenly got the message that no, we didn’t maybe want 20 left or 30 right, we require it, and one of those two is happening.
 
z987k said:
As long as you keep that • domestic where you sound like a bunch of talentless hacks to everyone else in the world that somehow speaks better English despite it being a second language.
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They practice sorcery with their meters / metric system. I’m not “with you” on that one, international community. :)
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I also don’t get riled up over “with you at FL350.”

At FL350
With you at FL350
Checkin in at FL350
Level 350
Here at FL350
etc.


As long as you checked in and we were acknowledged, I couldn’t care less. There’s no nails on the chalkboard with me for ATC verbiage. I try not to stress the small, negligible stuff.
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This. I really don’t care. Sure it’s not proper, and I get that, but the mos popular argument often seems to be about it tying up the air. Who cares... it eats up less than a second.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Again, it’s a request only because the next thing that comes out if I get a snappy unable is “we require (___) immediately,” where the blank is something else. I generally don’t ask for (especially) a lateral change unless we really need it. Altitudes yes, course no.

And then after that it becomes “air carrier 1234, we are doing (___).” I’ll work with ATC as able, but at the end of the day we aren’t going through that CB.

I had an FO once do the Mormon nice thing on the radio when dealing with some serious and immediately pressing weather and the answer was “no, you can’t maybe do that.” When my voice popped on in Form 2 above, they suddenly got the message that no, we didn’t maybe want 20 left or 30 right, we require it, and one of those two is happening.
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Maybe ask for a deviation a little earlier? :P

I think ATC knows if you’re requesting around weather, you’re probably not gonna want to fly through it. Why not request it early enough so they can move whoever out of your way and get you the deviation. Of course do not penetrate a cell. Demand if it’s getting close and as a last resort, declare an emergency and turn carefully away and avoid traffic.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Maybe ask for a deviation a little earlier? :p

I think ATC knows if you’re requesting around weather, you’re probably not gonna want to fly through it. Why not request it early enough so they can move whoever out of your way and get you the deviation. Of course do not penetrate a cell. Demand if it’s getting close and as a last resort, declare an emergency and turn carefully away and avoid traffic.
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I mean, I prefer strategic reroutes over going tactical (sorry @Derg) too.

The best way to win is to not play, but that's not always an option.
 
bimmerphile said:
I'm definitely requesting 350 deg to the right on the next trip
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48007
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
He’s not Tier 1, so he’s apologizing for using tactical.
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Oh shoot, 14000 pilots and I generally don't play close attention to anything other than my own flight plan or crap that interests me personally.

Who is the MEC chair? I don't know. I know my rep and talk to him regularly.
 
Derg said:
Oh shoot, 14000 pilots and I generally don't play close attention to anything other than my own flight plan or crap that interests me personally.

Who is the MEC chair? I don't know. I know my rep and talk to him regularly.
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You’re an anomaly. Thou shall conform. Report to ATL for your 3-day CA course called ‘On Guard’ for re-Deltazation. No business casual, full pilot uniform only.

:P
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Again, it’s a request only because the next thing that comes out if I get a snappy unable is “we require (___) immediately,” where the blank is something else. I generally don’t ask for (especially) a lateral change unless we really need it. Altitudes yes, course no.

And then after that it becomes “air carrier 1234, we are doing (___).” I’ll work with ATC as able, but at the end of the day we aren’t going through that CB.

I had an FO once do the Mormon nice thing on the radio when dealing with some serious and immediately pressing weather and the answer was “no, you can’t maybe do that.” When my voice popped on in Form 2 above, they suddenly got the message that no, we didn’t maybe want 20 left or 30 right, we require it, and one of those two is happening.
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I will ask nicely once, request formally once, and then inform of intentions.

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