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learhawkerbe400 said:
When LUS first started using the AA system I had multiple guys tell me to turn off trip trading use HIN. I always thought it was dumb. So you’re telling me guys will break into my schedule and trade my trips? I highly doubt that’s ever happened and if it did i hope that person would get fired.
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I have no idea if it’s happened at AA. But it happened at Eagle when I was there. The union sent out an email to remind everyone to turn off trip trading when you were done.

I guess because in Sabre you can see who has what trip and SABRE stalking is a thing I guess. You can look up anyone’s schedule if you know their employee number. If someone has a trip that you want and you don’t want a trip on your schedule, you could take their trip off their schedule and slip them your unwanted trip if they left their Trip Trade status ON. You wouldn’t know their status until you tried. If it was off, the trade just gets denied and no harm no foul. If it was on, the trade gets processed.

From what I remember the company wouldn’t/didn’t do anything about it and the guy who did it got away with it and the guy who had the trips poached off him was now responsible for the trips that were put on his schedule by the other pilot. hence the union email about turning trip trade off when you weren’t actively trading trips.

Pretty crappy isn’t it.

But AA isn’t Eagle so who knows.
 
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learhawkerbe400 said:
When LUS first started using the AA system I had multiple guys tell me to turn off trip trading use HIN. I always thought it was dumb. So you’re telling me guys will break into my schedule and trade my trips? I highly doubt that’s ever happened and if it did i hope that person would get fired.
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Does eagle use Sabre too?
 
woodreau said:
I have no idea if it’s happened at AA. But it happened at Eagle when I was there. The union sent out an email to remind everyone to turn off trip trading when you were done.

I guess because in Sabre you can see who has what trip and SABRE stalking is a thing I guess. You can look up anyone’s schedule if you know their employee number. If someone has a trip that you want and you don’t want a trip on your schedule, you could take their trip off their schedule and slip them your unwanted trip if they left their Trip Trade status ON. You wouldn’t know their status until you tried. If it was off, the trade just gets denied and no harm no foul. If it was on, the trade gets processed.

From what I remember the company wouldn’t/didn’t do anything about it and the guy who did it got away with it and the guy who had the trips poached off him was now responsible for the trips that were put on his schedule by the other pilot. hence the union email about turning trip trade off when you weren’t actively trading trips.

Pretty crappy isn’t it.

But AA isn’t Eagle so who knows.
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I think it’s the same way here. Nobody does it though.
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AAPalmTree said:
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I had no idea about this ATP program. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Hopping in a full sim on airplane you don’t learn anything about and do things like CFiT. “All right when you get the GPws warning just pull on the stick all the way back, it won’t stall”....then they try that in an airplane that isn’t an Airbus..yikes. Oh well.
 
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Kingairer said:
I had no idea about this ATP program. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Hoping in a full sim on airplane you don’t learn anything about and do things like CFiT. “All right when you get the GPws warning just pull on the stick all the way back, it won’t stall”....then they try that in an airplane that isn’t an Airbus..yikes. Oh well.
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The ATP-CTP course is a joke. My experience was basically a bunch of retired airlines guys swapping war stories for 5 days then playing in a level D sim for 2 days.
 
Kingairer said:
I had no idea about this ATP program. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Hoping in a full sim on airplane you don’t learn anything about and do things like CFiT. “All right when you get the GPws warning just pull on the stick all the way back, it won’t stall”....then they try that in an airplane that isn’t an Airbus..yikes. Oh well.
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We’ll just add this to the list of why the airbus is so awesome.
 
Jordan93 said:
It was until about the 10th, “Back when I was flying the...”
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So the CTP-ATP course prepares you as a CA for what FOs say? I say +1 for realistic scenarios.

As for this kid, I change my mind and say good for him. I didn't particularly care for his "3,000 nm commute" and "worth it" for his weekend getaway from ND to HI to do a Caravan trip (because it does injustice to the real world commuters where it isn't rainbows/sunshines/commuting sucks). But as far as this training footprint stuff goes, I think he presented it in a great format. No doubt that those starting out at a regional will find this informative and interesting. He also seems to be one of those people who go well on a camera. Unlike that Chavez guy at Envoy...
 
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