Thinking About Sun Country?

Yakob said:
I'm not sure I agree with this- seems to me it would be wisest to take the first opportunity to escape the regionals, even if it is "just" an LCC or ACMI carrier. In waiting around to log 1000TPIC, you could forfeit hundreds if not thousands of seniority numbers at wherever you go. Plus you never know how long the opportunity to get hired at a ULCC will last- suppose the music stops before you get 1000TPIC? That's an especially relevant question right now, considering it's been almost 9 years since the last recession, which means we're just about due for another one. Even if the music doesn't stop industry-wide, considering how volatile the regional airline industry is, your regional could easily go the way of Comair before you reach 1000TPIC as well.

Also, while having 1000TPIC may be an advantage when applying to legacies, it doesn't guarantee anything. I've flown with captains who have many thousands of hours of TPIC and still can't get a call. As for the point about staying at a regional to become an LCA, LCAs make up a tiny portion of a pilot group, so a given pilot's chances of becoming one are slim.

The fact is that the legacies have many more applications on file than openings. The simple mathematics of the situation are that not everyone will get hired at a legacy airline. A ULCC would be a vastly better place to spend a career than a regional.
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You say 1000TPIC a lot :bounce::bounce:
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I have literally no idea how much flight time I have other than "somewhere mid four-digits" and "I did in fact hit the magical 1000 hours of that at some point."
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I remember the magical 1000TPIC obsession when I was at the regionals. Ironically enough when I got hired at airways I had 1007 TPIC.
 
This sounds awesome
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I had dinner with a buddy who just finished FO OE while I was back in MN. Coming from a 91 background he had nothing but good to say.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Getting the call that I was hired at AirTran in 2007 was one of the happiest days of my life. Nobody was hiring, and I was one of 12,000 applicants, miserable at Pinnacle. Felt like I’d hit the Powerball when that call came.

You’re right, it’s coming again soon. I hope people are prepared for it. The good times never last forever.
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Define "it"

9/11 was a once in a lifetime (hopefully) attack like Pearl Harbor. 3k dead and you know exactly you were that day because of its horribleness/profoundness/effects/etc. These kinds of things don't happen with regular occurrence in the US. The 2008 recession was bad but honestly it was worse because Age 65 had just passed Dec 2007. That guaranteed people work 5 yrs longer and hiring came to a halt at nearly all the airlines for 2008-2011. The big 3 didn't hire in 2012 either.

So what's next? Another 9/11? Age 67? Changing the age rule will just delay by 2 yrs the retirement graphs. It doesn't fix anything, it just buys the industry time. Another recession? Ok, but will that really cause thousands and thousands in layoffs as 9/11 did? 2008 layoffs weren't that bad compared to 9/11. But most airlines that went out of business did so because oil came waaaaaay up and they couldn't deal with it, along with the liquidity crisis. If you can't get money, you're hosed.

I think there retirement numbers are just too staggering to be any real "big" furlough.
 
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