Reality check

bLizZuE said:
Let that sink in.
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And I know jtrain would smack me, but I’d say the same for United.

The one drawback to UA I see is the next 0-5 yrs isn’t when their impressive retirement numbers start, It’s still about 400-550/year. But years 6-11 is when it really takes off! Regardless, I’d do it for EWR. Get the initial aircraft then hang out in the 75/76 EWR until first upgrade into whatever plane in EWR only.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
That's because you're one of the weird people that doesn't hate New Jersey.
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
My take?

The horror stories of AA are mostly from the archaic history of 4 different airlines merged in. TW/AA/US/AWA. That’s a hot mess with many ticked off guys in the post 9/11 world, lost pensions, etc. I get it, they had it tough. But if you’re starting at AA now especially at a young age, it’s gonna be a good career.

Yes, I’ve heard their scheduling rules can use an improvement, better min day (true min day), etc. Not use old school MAC type computer programs, etc.


My big draws to AA:

*Great base variety (esp for the northeast, there’s 4 bases alone! BOS, NYC, PHL, DC). 2 of those bases for me are driving distance, the other 2 can be trains or planes.

*Most retirement movement the next 10 years. Some years 900+ mandatory retirements per year. 8,300 gone in 10 years. If you start now, you’d be 43% overall in just 10 years. Let that sink in. Also in years 11-20, more retirements of about 4,400. So 12,600+ gone in 20 yrs.

Also AA has hired the least guys of the big 3, and of the newhires, MANY are the older types from Eagle flows and military. If you’re below 35, you can probably retire #300-400 at AA. Or top 100 if you’re in your 20s.

*Good business, IMO. I think AA will weather any storm. Certainly better than my west coast only legacy airline.
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Quit wasting your time. This is a former military dude who has very little time at a regional arguing with a majority of people who fly for a career airline who got there via regionals and is too stubborn to listen because he already made up his mind and/or knows more. Run on sentence because I DGAF. Seriously it's AA and he thinks it's going to suck. Not much you can do with that.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
And I know jtrain would smack me, but I’d say the same for United.

The one drawback to UA I see is the next 0-5 yrs isn’t when their impressive retirement numbers start, It’s still about 400-550/year. But years 6-11 is when it really takes off! Regardless, I’d do it for EWR. Get the initial aircraft then hang out in the 75/76 EWR until first upgrade into whatever plane in EWR only.
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Dude, don't do it for EWR. Do it for Harambee!
 
ClarkGriswold said:
Quit wasting your time. This is a former military dude who has very little time at a regional arguing with a majority of people who fly for a career airline who got there via regionals and is too stubborn to listen because he already made up his mind and/or knows more. Run on sentence because I DGAF. Seriously it's AA and he thinks it's going to suck. Not much you can do with that.
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It's not wise to use your entire vocabulary at once.

Can you shut the door please. No... from the outside.
 
This is My Screen Name said:
It's not wise to use your entire vocabulary at once.

Can you shut the door please. No... from the outside.
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This kinda reminds me of someone, on another forum, with no aviation experience, who felt the need to school me on ramp and flight operations during a discussion about the SEATAC thing. You could almost hear the collective groan and facepalm from the other participants who know my history.
 
Cptnchia said:
This kinda reminds me of someone, on another forum, with no aviation experience, who felt the need to school me on ramp and flight operations during a discussion about the SEATAC thing. You could almost hear the collective groan and facepalm from the other participants who know my history.
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Alrighty then.

I've done nothing but seek information, as it pertains to me. I've been totally straight forward and honest with everything I've said.

Then this guy comes in calling me names (baby) like a grade school bully, knows what my decision is before I made it and basically is just being a complete and total tool bag to me for why? For asking questions? For explaining my point of view? Show us on the doll where the internet hurt you.

I've not spoke disrespectfully to anyone here. I've been really appreciative of people giving me their two cents worth and I've expressed that several times.

Yea... I'm the jerk here... Right.

I've plenty of aviation experience, just not 121. I also haven't ruled out that 121 may not be the right thing for me. Knowing that however would require adult level discussion.

Thankfully I've gotten lots of great feedback except for one person who I don't know what their deal is - having a conniption because I didn't take her advice ?
 
Finny said:
When faced with a transcon commute the mind does funny things...
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It must be different when commuting to the middle of the Pacific but I loved that commute. I was able to read a book, watch some movies and then land back at my other home. That was even before you could download Netflix and have power at nearly every seat. The worst was riding TheBus to my Waikiki condo.
 
This is My Screen Name said:
Unless the flow leads to a place you don't want to be... that is how much I'm not liking my job. Spent too many years in prior career being unhappy, I'm not going to do that again.

In any event its not like I'll be deciding today and its not like I'm jumping ship at the first sign of trouble. Lastly, riding out the storm is not off the table - as previously stated the irony of trading fleas is not lost on me.

Appreciate the thoughts very much.
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*Facepalm
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What's wrong with AA? I'd give up my 260k CA job at the 5th biggest carrier to start at the bottom of AA, but that's just me. AA has hired the least so far and retire about 8,300 pilots in the next 10 yrs out of an active ~ 14,800.
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Is it possible that you might never be happy? Being a captain at AK and be willing to toss that down the drain to become the very last person on the list at AA seems you would rather chase a great career than actually have one.
 
im very happy at AA. Alot depends on if you commute, type of flying you do, base etc. The guy flying a 190 out of PHL is at a different airline than the one flying a 777 out of DFW...if you don’t like the one you’re in, bid and change to the other. The fact that you’re going on orders anyways, don’t have to finish that degree, don’t have to reinterview etcetc ..this is a no brainer as I see it. As everyone else on here has already stated, taking advice from
Some disgruntled dude on the bus after a trip is going to get you disgruntled outlooks. Problem is that “disgruntled captain” works for every airline out there, so no matter where you go, he’ll be there.
There is no easy/west/aa war anymore.
 
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