Hawaiian Airlines Cancels A330neos for 787-900s

They went for a newer airplane instead of a stopgap with the A330. I think the lack of cargo capacity on the 787 won't be good though. That cargo money is nice!
 
Kingairer said:
The only thing That excites me about the 787 is the clean cabin air. Beyond that, don’t talk to me until you do something with that yoke.
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I almost totally agree. I've sat the jumpseat up front, and I'd get over the yoke for a cockpit that quiet and automated. But yeah, DITCH THE YOKE BOEING!!!!
 
It wouldn’t surprise me. Hawaiian wanted the shrunk version of the A350, which Airbus is refusing to develop because of lack of other interest. So, they settled for the A330-800.

Money talks. If Boeing came in and made an offer they couldn’t refuse and Airbus won't build what they really want, ehh.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Why can't everyone get past the yoke? Every company has some sort of idiosyncrasy that uniquely identifies them. Embraer has the Ram horn yoke. Airbus has the joystick and tray table. Boeing insists on maintaining a yoke. Let's embrace corporate culture identities and just get over it already, and ourselves.
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Just Airbii fanbois being who they are. They can’t help it.
 
Boeing is like that hot chick that goes out Friday night, comes home clutching her high heels because fashionably they look great, however functionally they give her blisters.
 
Derg said:
I hope. It's newer than the 330. Unless, of course, Boeing just plastic'd up a 767 to merely match performance numbers of the 330.
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No, that's what Airbii did. No new wing, but new engines. Presto chango, a so-called new plane. What they do have over Boeing though is price point. It's cheaper than a brand new 78-9.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
No, that's what Airbii did. No new wing, but new engines. Presto chango, a so-called new plane. What they do have over Boeing though is price point. It's cheaper than a brand new 78-9.
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Depending on the discounts that Boeing will give to them. It will be interesting to see what happens. I am surprised there hasn't been an announcement by now.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Depending on the discounts that Boeing will give to them. It will be interesting to see what happens. I am surprised there hasn't been an announcement by now.
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There is a leadership change occurring today, so it's possible the old CEO wanted the new CEO to be able to get the glory and be the guy that brought the new plane to here.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Why can't everyone get past the yoke? Every company has some sort of idiosyncrasy that uniquely identifies them. Embraer has the Ram horn yoke. Airbus has the joystick and tray table. Boeing insists on maintaining a traditional yoke. Let's embrace corporate culture identities and just get over it already, and ourselves.
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I never knew how uncomfortable I had been until the yoke and the pole that holds it up were no longer there.

Lack of a yoke is a stupendous improvement to my cockpit qi.

There would have to be an extraordinarily compelling reason to lose the foot space and go back to a plane with that contraption.

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They invented a plane that can't fly redeyes? Is that a software lockout, somewhere in the EEPROM, or did they come up with a hardware solution? :bounce:
 
What about pinkeyes?


Pinkeyes are east coast departures at 9pm-12 midnight local eastern, that land 12am-2am on the west coast, effectively being 3am-5am on the east coast body clock.
 
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