In-house Delta Job Fair, October 20/21 2017

limit / squeeze industry competition squeezes total aircraft in the skies, which limits crews thus jobs.

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As always this thread went off the rails around page 2, but I have a random question for @Derg

Is knowing another language a benefit on a pilot application? Is that something worth putting on the resume or is it only a benefit for FAs?
 
My friend says it is absolutely a benefit and he'd suggest including it on your application.
 
Guess when you're DELTA Air you can be cheap when seeking the best ATP's to join your TEAM. Delta, #71 on the Fortune 500 Ranking, can afford a notable HR firm to process all who seek employment and present Delta's HR a highly qualified 1,200 for their Job Fair. Or, was there more to the story of using a two minute drill on the net to find their 1,200!
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Are you a Nigerian price?
 
Result is out, I'm officially a bypasser. Bottom plug CA in SFO is junior to me. :aghast:

I'll be 10 yrs flying for the airlines as of next month, never touched a left seat and this was my first chance. As much as I want to, the current family situation plus the transcon commute to reserve. :(

I think the worst part is seeing the 50ish (or more) upgrades this year, none were in NYC. And several NYC FOs senior to me who took the upgrade had to take it in SFO. That means at some point they are going to want to return as a NYC Captain. With the base capped, the only movement into the base as a CA is when someone retires or bids out west on purpose. This bid award had just one NY CA bid SFO, and that position was filled by a fairly senior already-CA from SFO. So for a NYC CA slot, I'd have to not only wait for any current SF or LA CA that wants NYC, but also all the FOs above me who also want NYC as a Captain. True, many don't want NYC CA for a reserve position and will pass that opportunity, but even then I still don't see me holding NYC Captain for a looooong time.

We still have one more CA bid for 6 upgrades this year, and then the upgrades for next year (5 new planes + 6 CA retirements). We have the contract coming out on Oct 29th and the SLI should be done by about mid-2018. Hopefully they'll have news for us in the NYC base early or mid 2018. I can only guess but given its current size I think it either has to expand in size (increase base cap) in order to get economic justification, or just outright close. No one knows. I think for now I'd bid SFO CA if I could hold a line. Most of the EWR/JFK overnights tend to go junior, so I can bid those kinds of trips and go home for the night every time I have those. The commute would suck, but at least I could score some home overnights. But the problem of upgrading into a line is that SFO CA line awards are unpredictable from one month to another. Some months, there may be 20+ involuntary reserves. The next, just 12 involuntary reserves. Some month as high as 25-30, others as low as 11-12. It'd hard to predict. The "safest" thing would be to wait until there are at least 20-25 CAs below. Or maybe bid right when one can hold a reserve schedule for 6 months and a regular line for about 6 months (~15 CAs below in base or so)? I don't know.

/end rant

I would definitely want to head into the SLI in the left seat.
 
I would definitely want to head into the SLI in the left seat.

Your actual seat doesn't matter in an SLI. The seniority list your company submits to fill the slots once the actual order is determined doesn't get rewritten based on who is in what seat. There could be a long period of slow to no movement for a part of the seniority list after an SLI (see: Southwest FOs) but your actual seniority won't be hurt.
 
Your actual seat doesn't matter in an SLI. The seniority list your company submits to fill the slots once the actual order is determined doesn't get rewritten based on who is in what seat. There could be a long period of slow to no movement for a part of the seniority list after an SLI (see: Southwest FOs) but your actual seniority won't be hurt.

That’s what I meant. Might be a long wait for upgrade.
 
No, no, nobody is talking about degrees and job requirements, @Nark, @Derg, etc. That conversation has been had multiple times and is not being reopened here. I commented that I don't have a degree and thus won't be going to a major as context as to why I was an objective third party. That was it. Move along, please. Or if you want to reopen the discussion, do it substantively.

I accepted my regional lifer status when I opted to come to a regional without a degree.

-Fox

Lack of a degree doesn't make you a regional lifer unless you have in fact "accepted" defeat.
 
Question re: integration... Was the Bloch (sp?) award at Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan based on some algorithm of "seniority + category" - as in some pilots that may have been in a higher (pay) category i.e. CRJ900CA made out better than a senior pilot that was Saab340-CA? I'm probably remembering it wrong.
 
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