Boris Badenov
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Ah, from the land of living someone has somehow mistaken for pleasant!
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Ah, from the land of living someone has somehow mistaken for pleasant!
Cory Trevor
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I flew with a guy once on a trip through Denver and every step down fix where you had to be between altitudes he would say, oh we barely made that fix. I just kept saying "yeah." But yeah, we did make it. It's pretty simple in the CRJ have the direct intercept page up and as long as your vertical speed is higher than what's on the page you're fine. Then when he was PF he'd get to the bottom altitudes and level off at each one, very efficient and comfortable for passengers
Chief Captain
Well-Known Member
This. I don't understand why people are getting so sensitive about it. Seems like they're insecure. On most planes, the FO's left hand almost naturally falls to the flap lever.
jtsastre
Well-Known Member
As an FO I...HATED...THIS. Why not attempt to make a constant rate of descent using what the COMPUTERS are telling you. I’d look ahead and see that we only need to do 1000’ or less descent rate and they’re doing 2500’ or more. *Super efficient*
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
You mean like FOs who get bent out of shape by the captain resting their hands near the yoke? :stir:
Chief Captain
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between passively resting a hand near a control that I'll be activating, and actively shadowing the yoke while someone else is flying.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Only an insecure pilot would resent it.
Chief Captain
Well-Known Member
In challenging conditions, it may well be warranted. On every leg, I'd ask what the problem is.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
In that case, I'd say that one of you is a weak pilot. It might behoove you to ask and find out!
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
It sounds like a lot of this happens at the regional level. Not saying exclusively, and a small sample size, but I've never witnessed these shenanigans at the legacy level.
milleR
Well-Known Member
Probably true, I personally didn't see it at the regionals but I was only there for a couple years. It's the nitpicking over technique that's just amazing. Do your job, go home, cash check. Simple.
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
It's FAR more prevalent at the regionals. I've had a couple micromanaging-micromanagers at mainline, and a couple dingleberries, but it's few and far between.
Confession, if I'm doing the Garfield on the window thing looking outside on approach, I'll put my hand on the flap handle so I don't have to grope for it when they inevitably call for it.
Confession, if I'm doing the Garfield on the window thing looking outside on approach, I'll put my hand on the flap handle so I don't have to grope for it when they inevitably call for it.
I did have one FO ask me (in general and me personally) why captains kept their hand on the side stick when he was PF.
I personally don't keep my hand on the side stick with the intention of overriding the other pilot. I do use the PTT on the side stick. Since the side sticks don't move together I didn't think it was a problem.
I did say that when I was going through OE I was surprised to hear from all the check airmen I was flying with that I was expected to keep my feet on the rudder pedals to be ready to take over from the FO in case I needed to for takeoff and landing. Really? After I was done with training and hit the line and tried shadowing the rudder pedals a few times I decided I didn't like it so I stopped doing it. I think if I really need to take control it would just be easier to say go around than mash that red button on the side stick and say I have control when we're so close to the ground.
I personally don't keep my hand on the side stick with the intention of overriding the other pilot. I do use the PTT on the side stick. Since the side sticks don't move together I didn't think it was a problem.
I did say that when I was going through OE I was surprised to hear from all the check airmen I was flying with that I was expected to keep my feet on the rudder pedals to be ready to take over from the FO in case I needed to for takeoff and landing. Really? After I was done with training and hit the line and tried shadowing the rudder pedals a few times I decided I didn't like it so I stopped doing it. I think if I really need to take control it would just be easier to say go around than mash that red button on the side stick and say I have control when we're so close to the ground.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I would much rather the other pilot say "go around" than try to save the day at 50 feet if he thinks things are going bad on my approach.
The company would rather that too.
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The company would rather that too.
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Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Yeah, didn't they try the save the landing hero thing once?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
FTFY?