Hand Flown RNAV SIDS and STARS

If it's ATL, arrivals and departures are "shoe horned" so please be on your best behavior! :)
 
Ayork62493 said:
It doesn't bother me, I typically hand fly the SIDs and occasionally a star towards the end if the situation allows for it. (Weather, traffic, mechanical issues). Recurrent this year they had us hand flying to mins single engine. I've had the autopilot deferred a number of times this last year, so it's probably good for me.

Also, I'm not a captain but at my regional a large majority of the FOs haven't flown turbines before and very, very rarely kick the autopilot off. I see it jumpseating pretty often. It'd be a good thing if everyone hand flew a little more.

On the Airbus I assume its very rare to kick all automation off?
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Doesn't help that some instructors tell new hires it's mandatory to use autopilot on RNAV SID's. I challenged someone on that and the response was "I'll get back to you with a reference"

I typically fly it up to 10, at the very least. Coming in on approach though is all different. If it's straight in I just let it trim itself out before disconnecting. To each their own.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
My silent review as we trundle up is:

Runway, departure, first fix, takeoff data runway block in agreement with the FMS runway and outside, flap value on the takeoff data in agreement with aircraft configuration, thrust mode (TO/FLX) on the data in agreement with the gauges, TO CONFIG OK message posted, runway heading bugged, altitude constraints, airspeed constraints.

Some of this may even become SOP.
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Everything you just said there, is required to be verbalized as the takeoff brief at SJI.
 
woodreau said:
Just verify you have the cyan needles underlying the white needles (it should be there 30 miles from the runway threshold if the ILS auto tunes or is manually tuned)

And arm the approach when cleared.

At localizer capture it should transfer to green needles automatically.

If the plane auto tuned the ils at 30 miles it should autotransfer white to green with the cyan underneath.

If it doesn't auto tune and you have the approach loaded in the fms then it's probably a heading mode manually switch to green, arm approach airplane.

It's part of the fms 4.1 upgrade that bombardier started offering circa 2011/2012.
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But what Ethan said is correct. When it switches from white to green needles, it will dump any wind correction it was holding and turn back toward the ILS course heading and then go "oh crap, we need wind correction" and turn back to about where it was before the autotransfer. Kinda funny to watch sometimes. That is, unless they've made another software change in the past two years to somehow fix it doing that.
 
tcco94 said:
Doesn't help that some instructors tell new hires it's mandatory to use autopilot on RNAV SID's. I challenged someone on that and the response was "I'll get back to you with a reference"

I typically fly it up to 10, at the very least. Coming in on approach though is all different. If it's straight in I just let it trim itself out before disconnecting. To each their own.
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Depends on your company. When I left ASA it was mandatory.
 
Cptnchia said:
Everything you just said there, is required to be verbalized as the takeoff brief at SJI.
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Mhm. (I wonder.)

edit: being the loser that I am...nevermind. WORK WORK WORK HUMAN FACTORS WORK WORK FLIGHT PATH MANAGEMENT WORK
 
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KSCessnaDriver said:
Too bad that doesn't help people and their ability to not select NAV off the runway in ATL. It's embarrassing to work at a place that approach has decided isn't capable of being trusted to fly RNAV.
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One job!!! Just hit NAV. I can only guess that it's the new captains flying with brand new F/O's. Regardless it's embarrassing. I did ATL flying this whole week and I kept wondering why we were getting heading XXX at the MM.
 
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