Delter debacle

Derg said:
Don't require volunteers for a seat that wasn't theirs to begin with.

it's like if I buy a ticket and bring an unticketed hockey team, there aren't going to be any ten thousand dollar millionaires on that flight.
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They seat was theirs. They bought the ticket for their other kid, whom for unknown reasons wound up taking a different flight.
 
Derg said:
FTFY! :)
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They paid for the seat. They should be able to do with it as they wish. The airlines are the only business in the world that can sell one item to two different people. If the teenage son volunteered to take the other flight after being asked by Delta, than yes, I'll agree with you. If they bought the ticket for the other flight, than I stand by my original comment.
 
Four travelers, three tickets + one unticketed "babe in arms".

One of the ticketed travelers left on another flight leaving three travelers and two unredeemed tickets with one "babe in arms" and a passenger wondering "Hey, 22C has a baby in it, WTF?"
 
Derg said:
Four travelers, three tickets + one unticketed "babe in arms".

One of the ticketed travelers left on another flight leaving three travelers and two unredeemed tickets with one "babe in arms" and a passenger wondering "Hey, 22C has a baby in it, WTF?"
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100 seats, 105 tickets sold. That is the problem. Not the baby in the seat.
 
NovemberEcho said:
They paid for the seat. They should be able to do with it as they wish. The airlines are the only business in the world that can sell one item to two different people. If the teenage son volunteered to take the other flight after being asked by Delta, than yes, I'll agree with you. If they bought the ticket for the other flight, than I stand by my original comment.
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I can't hand my ticket with my name on it to a homeless guy in the parking lot and expect him to get on.
 
Where was he told he would go to jail and lose the kids? That part sounds made up unless the cop said that if he didnt comply in which case, the cop wasnt lying.
 
Derg said:
100 seats, 101 people show up for 100 tickets.
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It's no different than buying a ticket for a cello. I paid for the seat. My cello goes in the seat. If I change my mind about the cello my water bottle goes in the seat. But I paid for the seat. It's my seat. Anyone left stranded, that's the airlines problem. What do so many say on here? Your emergency is not my emergency? Well an airlines poor business practice is not my problem either.
 
If you think about it, all this is due to the corporate greed that the general public chugs down until it causes severe nausea and comes right back up.
Selling one seat twice is better than once, but hey, each of those tickets is 24.99 cheaper than they would be otherwise!

You wouldn't believe the economics/BS arguments between me, who used to run tangible goods business, and wife, Sr Fin Analyst at UAL.
#draintheswamp
 
BigZ said:
corporate greed
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....has absolutely nothing to do with these situations and no bearing on the rational discussion of them.

Finance is a two way street: a provider of goods or services, and someone who enters into a contract and exchanges money for those goods and services.

So long as it is free an uncoerced, that transaction is free of moral or emotional baggage.

Ultimately, the whole idea of "greed" having any bearing on these transactions is a bunch of illogical, emotional ridiculousness.

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy airline tickets and enter into these contracts. Those that do, do so of their own freewill and willfully accept whatever contract comes along with it. People are free to not buy tickets and enter into contracts they don't agree with.

No f's given for people who abdicate their personal responsibility for due diligence when entering into contracts.
 
NovemberEcho said:
It's no different than buying a ticket for a cello. I paid for the seat. My cello goes in the seat. If I change my mind about the cello my water bottle goes in the seat. But I paid for the seat. It's my seat. Anyone left stranded, that's the airlines problem. What do so many say on here? Your emergency is not my emergency? Well an airlines poor business practice is not my problem either.
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The older kid's ticket was rebooked on another flight. Thus his "seat" is now on a different flight. That's what the parents bought. The airline met their side of the contract by giving him the seat on another flight, thus forfeiting the seat on the flight with his parents. You aren't buying THAT SEAT. You're "buying" A seat.
 
NovemberEcho said:
It's no different than buying a ticket for a cello. I paid for the seat. My cello goes in the seat. If I change my mind about the cello my water bottle goes in the seat. But I paid for the seat. It's my seat. Anyone left stranded, that's the airlines problem. What do so many say on here? Your emergency is not my emergency? Well an airlines poor business practice is not my problem either.
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No. If you decide to send your cello on a different flight you dont get to store your trumpet on this one. This really isn't that difficult...
 
B767 said:
The older kid's ticket was rebooked on another flight. Thus his "seat" is now on a different flight. That's what the parents bought. The airline met their side of the contract by giving him the seat on another flight, thus forfeiting the seat on the flight with his parents. You aren't buying THAT SEAT. You're "buying" A seat.
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That's why I specified if his ticket was transferred to another flight, then yes the seat is vacated. If they bought the ticket for the other flight, then imo it's not.
 
mastermags said:
No. If you decide to send your cello on a different flight you dont get to store your trumpet on this one. This really isn't that difficult...
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If I bought a ticket for both flights, then I do. I buy a car, someone else doesn't get to drive it when I'm not using it.
 
ppragman said:
the expectation to be able to use seats you purchased tickets for is "entitlement."
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The third seat had been re-booked on another flight. It wasn't their seat anymore.

Initially the two youngest children were going to sit on their parents' laps, but when their teenage son opted to travel on another flight - having had a seat booked - they seated Grayson in his seat instead
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Even if an *additional* ticket had been purchased for the teenager, leaving that third seat in the name of the teenager, airlines are still allowed to rebook that seat if the paid passenger doesn't show for the flight.
 
Hacker15e said:
....has absolutely nothing to do with these situations and no bearing on the rational discussion of them.

Finance is a two way street: a provider of goods or services, and someone who enters into a contract and exchanges money for those goods and services.

So long as it is free an uncoerced, that transaction is free of moral or emotional baggage.

Ultimately, the whole idea of "greed" having any bearing on these transactions is a bunch of illogical, emotional ridiculousness.

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy airline tickets and enter into these contracts. Those that do, do so of their own freewill and willfully accept whatever contract comes along with it. People are free to not buy tickets and enter into contracts they don't agree with.

No f's given for people who abdicate their personal responsibility for due diligence when entering into contracts.
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Id give a detailed reply but gonna run to the airport and attempt to nonrev on an oversold flight.
Last time wife claimed nonrevving is a benefit I told her I'll suck her eyeballs out if she says that again.
#yogapantsorbust
 
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