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He's still here AFAIK.

When I found out the company had cut a special deal for someone I immediately started sending out job applications.

It says a lot.


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trafficinsight said:
Don't take this the wrong way but... what exactly will it take to meet your expectations?

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A seniority based system: for schedule, basing, upgrades etc. That was my expectation. It isn't an expectation that is out of line. I'm sitting reserve in ORD because I don't have the seniority to hold anything else.

The minute you go down the road of giving line pilots special deals, not to mention a new hire FO a special deal, well you just lost your seniority system.

But hey I'm a super rad mountain bike racer and I signed up for the local summer race series. I want those days off! Right meow!*

*whats the difference?


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I'm so confused. So....

There's a pilot at OO who's been an air show pilot for 10 years. They wouldn't approve a LOA. So they worked out a recruiting agreement (since he's going to be performing at air shows around the country - might as well try to recruit some fresh meat) and is still here apparently? And this is upsetting to some people? Is/was (I have no idea if that person is still employed at OO. Thought they left) he senior to the people that are unhappy?
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
A seniority based system: for schedule, basing, upgrades etc. That was my expectation. It isn't an expectation that is out of line. I'm sitting reserve in ORD because I don't have the seniority to hold anything else.

The minute you go down the road of giving line pilots special deals, not to mention a new hire FO a special deal, well you just lost your seniority system.

But hey I'm a super rad mountain bike racer and I signed up for the local summer race series. I want those days off! Right meow!*

*whats the difference?


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No offense, but you seem to have major complaints about every job you have ever held.
 
B767 said:
I'm so confused. So....

There's a pilot at OO who's been an air show pilot for 10 years. They wouldn't approve a LOA. So they worked out a recruiting agreement (since he's going to be performing at air shows around the country - might as well try to recruit some fresh meat) and is still here apparently? And this is upsetting to some people? Is/was (I have no idea if that person is still employed at OO. Thought they left) he senior to the people that are unhappy?
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I'll split the middle on this one. No one. And I mean no one...should receive special treatment that abrogates seniority or violates the SkyW PPM (POS toilet paper 'contract' FWIW) just because of whatever circumstances. You either abide by a seniority system or you don't.

On the other hand, @BEEF SUPREME, dude it's only been like 6 months. You'll be mighty fine shortly.
 
It's total BS if they're letting guys take an "entire summer off". But....if it's a few weekend air shows that SKW attends anyway and he's doing some recruiting?? I can get this...

I have noticed that about half the new hires in my class I recently trained with on the 175 seem to be getting the ORD blues. Some before they even get on-line. A bunch of sickness, requests for EXTRA IOE, leaving for other jobs closer to home, exc, exc..

Honestly, I think training contracts are bogus but after seeing how few of the new hires are actually willing to come out and fly the line I wouldn't blame the company. Those type ratings are coming from our profit sharing checks. Don't come here unless you're willing to do a few months in ORD.
 
I personally don't care if someone is willing to take a leave of absence without pay or bennies to do whatever.

I do understand why a company which has paid lots of money to train said person balks at allowing them to take an extended leave during their probationary year.

I also understand that people are needed badly.

In conclusion.

*Shrug*. :) This really doesn't affect me at all.

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bike21 said:
I'll split the middle on this one. No one. And I mean no one...should receive special treatment that abrogates seniority or violates the SkyW PPM (POS toilet paper 'contract' FWIW) just because of whatever circumstances. You either abide by a seniority system or you don't.

On the other hand, @BEEF SUPREME, dude it's only been like 6 months. You'll be mighty fine shortly.
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That's the thing. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of it. For all I know though the Swiss cheese "contract" and seniority wasn't abrogated and a certain someone in the student council changed the PPM to make PLA available to anyone, and us minions don't know about it yet.

For all I know the "deal" could be part of the soft landing policy and the company just decided to leave him on the seniority list because it'll be only a few months?

Beats me...
 
B767 said:
That's the thing. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of it. For all I know though the Swiss cheese "contract" and seniority wasn't abrogated and a certain someone in the student council changed the PPM to make PLA available to anyone, and us minions don't know about it yet.

For all I know the "deal" could be part of the soft landing policy and the company just decided to leave him on the seniority list because it'll be only a few months?

Beats me...
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Which is why I'm still super confused and wouldn't be surprised if there's more to this story.

If something like that at a huge company is enough to make you start sending out job applications... you're going to be sending out a LOT of job applications in your life.
 
T/O w/FSII said:
No offense, but you seem to have major complaints about every job you have ever held.
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Nope. I enjoy working here quite a bit. Cool crews, nice equipment, actual work rules. I'm not super stoked on ORD but that's life in a seniority system and I'm totally fine with paying dues. I'm asking a lot of questions lately about ORD reserve and holding another base because I just moved my family out here. I was trying to time the sublet so l didn't spend a bunch of extra money on rent.

If you guys have issues with someone who has 5000+ TT, 1000 PIC turbine and international experience moving on, I got nothing.

The company not abiding by the seniority system is just an indicator for me to speed up the process. Based on past experiences.


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bike21 said:
I'll split the middle on this one. No one. And I mean no one...should receive special treatment that abrogates seniority or violates the SkyW PPM (POS toilet paper 'contract' FWIW) just because of whatever circumstances. You either abide by a seniority system or you don't.

On the other hand, @BEEF SUPREME, dude it's only been like 6 months. You'll be mighty fine shortly.
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Yeeeeeep.
 
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