Delta meltdown part...4?

ian said:
It blows my mind that we are asking people to volunteer rather than paying them overtime to fix this mess.
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When you say "volunteer" is it a "volunteer to come work on your off day and we'll pay you for it" or a "give us your time for free to fix this mess" type of thing?
 
Derg said:
And tell your buddy that unless he's into a day off, they'll call you when they figure it out.

If this current generation of pilots were around during 9/11, there'd be madness. I sat in a hotel in BOS almost a week, still under the footprint of my original pairing, and the DFW CPO said "hey, if they don't call you before 4pm, consider the night off. If you're approaching your off day, call DFW and then they'll take care of the rest".

This is only as challenging as you make and then complain on social media about it.
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Why are you making this a generational issue? Are you saying that pilots handle irrops issues differently based on their generation?
 
gne in prog said:
When you say "volunteer" is it a "volunteer to come work on your off day and we'll pay you for it" or a "give us your time for free to fix this mess" type of thing?
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I'm guessing the latter....Apparently they have an organized volunteer group for situations like this.
 
What a mess. We bought tickets on the D for our spring break trip and it got our whole family stranded in Florida yesterday. The best option for reacccomodation was to "book a vehicle" and drive the 19 hours north. That was tons of fun with three sub-6 year olds. Gotta admit, I was surprised at the level of meltdownishness happening.
 
turbojet28 said:
What a mess. We bought tickets on the D for our spring break trip and it got our whole family stranded in Florida yesterday. The best option for reacccomodation was to "book a vehicle" and drive the 19 hours north. That was tons of fun with three sub-6 year olds. Gotta admit, I was surprised at the level of meltdownishness happening.
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Too bad they canceled their agreement with AA. We've been doing pretty good from what I can tell.
 
So, pursefights aside, what happened? Like, bad day of storms followed by accordion backlog? The logjam equipment, crews, gates, pavement, what?
 
gne in prog said:
When you say "volunteer" is it a "volunteer to come work on your off day and we'll pay you for it" or a "give us your time for free to fix this mess" type of thing?
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I got 150% at CR7 rates for my "volunteering" this week, thankyouverymuch.

Of course, I was stuck in IAD, and the best way out was the airplane I flew in and then promptly timed out on, and y'know what, just pay me over the guarantee to fly the thing with 69 very grateful passengers home (as an extra section, following the receipt of adequate rest, @ian).
 
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Derg said:
And tell your buddy that unless he's into a day off, they'll call you when they figure it out.

If this current generation of pilots were around during 9/11, there'd be madness. I sat in a hotel in BOS almost a week, still under the footprint of my original pairing, and the DFW CPO said "hey, if they don't call you before 4pm, consider the night off. If you're approaching your off day, call DFW and then they'll take care of the rest".

This is only as challenging as you make and then complain on social media about it.
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FWIW, there's a perceptible difference to me in (1) not being willing to make the decision to cancel/reroute/whatever, and (2) "Holy crap, we literally do not have the time to make the decision."
 
Derg said:
You always have time to make a decision, Captain. External pressures versus internal pressures.
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Yes, Captain. And if you don't immediately have the time, you buy yourself the time.

I'm speaking not of the operators' decisionmaking, but that of the overlords; I have a nearly obstinate refusal to hurry nowadays (as it was beaten out of me early on). Not sure if I told you about the first time I hit the 16-hour-limit, and it took 90+ more minutes to merely get hold of someone to make the decision obvious to the troops on the ground that we were cancelled. Automated FAR compliance systems that fire the alerts, that are then managed-by-exception would be great, wouldn't they?
 
Asking as a Delta passenger who really needs to get someplace tonight - is the "meltdown" over?
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
Doesn't always work. At the end of a long day I'm not going to just hang in the hotel lobby or the terminal waiting on them to get around to us.
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*shrug*

In the case of my small part of this IROP, duty time continued until such time we were at the suitable accommodation.
 
Still planning on more crew cancels from the last update that came out


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Autothrust Blue said:
I got 150% at CR7 rates for my "volunteering" this week, thankyouverymuch.

Of course, I was stuck in IAD, and the best way out was the airplane I flew in and then promptly timed out on, and y'know what, just pay me over the guarantee to fly the thing with 69 very grateful passengers home.
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wait, i'm confused...are you saying you knowingly violated FARs?
 
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