FAA Medical Reform

I wonder what this does to the LSAs since you no longer need a medical to fly a heavier faster airplane than before.... obviously LSAs have different certification requirements, but one of the big draws about the Lisa was the lack of a medical.
 
web500sjc said:
I wonder what this does to the LSAs since you no longer need a medical to fly a heavier faster airplane than before.... obviously LSAs have different certification requirements, but one of the big draws about the Lisa was the lack of a medical.
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LSA values are going to plummet. You know why a J3 went from being an $18k airplane all day long to over $45k at one point? Due to the demand for LSA airframes. Now LSA doesn't matter, and those pilots are no longer restricted to J3, Ercoupe, Carbon Cub, Cub Crafters, Zenith...

Cessna crushed those Skycatchers because of product liability and now they're worthless.


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CFI A&P said:
LSA values are going to plummet. You know why a J3 went from being an $18k airplane all day long to over $45k at one point? Due to the demand for LSA airframes. Now LSA doesn't matter, and those pilots are no longer restricted to J3, Ercoupe, Carbon Cub, Cub Crafters, Zenith...

Cessna crushed those Skycatchers because of product liability and now they're worthless.


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They are restricted unless they get a private certificate.
 
mshunter said:
They are restricted unless they get a private certificate.
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That is correct, for those that obtained the LSA from zero, which is a surprisingly low number. I did leave those airmen out of that statement but was referring to the airmen that downgraded from a higher certificate.


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The LSA certificate has always been a poor choice driven by misinformation. The value of the LSA sector has been in development of some great airplanes. (As well as a lot of awful ones).
 
drunkenbeagle said:
As I can now flight instruct without a medical, I'm not sure if I will ever bother to get one again. Based on how often I have actually needed to exercise commercial privileges (almost never), it will be nice to save a few bucks.
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Wouldn't flight instructors still be considered in the "for hire" category, which would not be allowed still if you are giving instruction to students through a flight school?
 
drupilot54 said:
Wouldn't flight instructors still be considered in the "for hire" category, which would not be allowed still if you are giving instruction to students through a flight school?
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According to the FAA final rule posted above, no.

Which is consistent with how the FAA has treated flight instruction historically.
 
drupilot54 said:
http://www.flyingmag.com/faa-adopts-third-class-medical-reform-rule

Yea i guess re-reading this article, which states at the end that flight instructors are considered the exemption under BasicMed and don't need one. But flight instructors previously were considered as people that fall into the category of "compensation" or "for hire" right?
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No. Flight instructors have long been considered by the FAA to be compensated or hired for teaching, not for flying. Historically, a CFI does not require a medical at all unless he was also acting as PIC or as a required crewmember, in which case he only needed a third class medical. Under the new rule, for the PIC role, only a BasicMed will be required.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
No. Flight instructors have long been considered by the FAA to be compensated or hired for teaching, not for flying. Historically, a CFI does not require a medical at all unless he was also acting as PIC or as a required crewmember, in which case he only needed a third class medical. Under the new rule, for the PIC role, only a BasicMed will be required.
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That makes sense. I guess i was just looking at CFI as when for example he is hired by American Flyers for teaching purposes. Thank you for the clear up.
 
drupilot54 said:
That makes sense. I guess i was just looking at CFI as when for example he is hired by American Flyers for teaching purposes. Thank you for the clear up.
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American Flyers, or any mom & pop FBO that provides training, might require a medical even if the FAA doesn't. For an FBO example, consider a small rural FBO providing flight instruction and ferrying services. Might well insist it's CFIs have current 2nd Class medical.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
American Flyers, or any mom & pop FBO that provides training, might require a medical even if the FAA doesn't. For an FBO example, consider a small rural FBO providing flight instruction and ferrying services. Might well insist it's CFIs have current 2nd Class medical.
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It's important for 3rd class medical CFIs to remember that they may be legal for instructing, ANY other flying for the school (Mx flights, ferrying airplanes, ect.) will require a 2nd class. "Hey, can you take this plane up real quick to see if the mechanic fixed the problem?"

It's rarely a problem, but could bite someone in the rear if they aren't careful.
 
USMCmech said:
It's important for 3rd class medical CFIs to remember that they may be legal for instructing, ANY other flying for the school (Mx flights, ferrying airplanes, ect.) will require a 2nd class. "Hey, can you take this plane up real quick to see if the mechanic fixed the problem?"

It's rarely a problem, but could bite someone in the rear if they aren't careful.
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Exactly. The school where I learned how to fly had a cancelled check transport contract (remember those?).
 
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