FAA Medical Reform

CFI A&P said:
LSA values are going to plummet. You know why a J3 went from being an $18k airplane all day long to over $45k at one point? Due to the demand for LSA airframes. Now LSA doesn't matter, and those pilots are no longer restricted to J3, Ercoupe, Carbon Cub, Cub Crafters, Zenith...

Cessna crushed those Skycatchers because of product liability and now they're worthless.


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I hope so. LSAs were useless aircraft. Hopefully manufacturers will get back into the business of making airplanes that can haul more than the pilot and 46 minutes of gas.
 
z987k said:
I hope so. LSAs were useless aircraft. Hopefully manufacturers will get back into the business of making airplanes that can haul more than the pilot and 46 minutes of gas.
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It's been mentioned before, applying 21st century technology to aircraft design is a good thing. Except $300k Carbon Cubs, that doesn't help the market as much.
 
CFI A&P said:
It's been mentioned before, applying 21st century technology to aircraft design is a good thing. Except $300k Carbon Cubs, that doesn't help the market as much.
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I don't understand why a brand new cub minus the engine can't be made for 30k. The parts don't come close to that amount.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
Exactly. The school where I learned how to fly had a cancelled check transport contract (remember those?).
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Yes, back in the day when men were men (and so were women), gods among men criss-crossed the nation's skies after dark, flying piston and turboprop twins of questionable pedigree. These gods among men were known as the Order of the Sleepless Knights.
 
Roger Roger said:
Yes, back in the day when men were men (and so were women), gods among men criss-crossed the nation's skies after dark, flying piston and turboprop twins of questionable pedigree. These gods among men were known as the Order of the Sleepless Knights.
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LOL. Since any applicable statute of limitations has long since run, and I have no idea whether current Part 135 rules (particularly 135.115) applied (then I barely knew what Part 91 was!), a confession. When I was a student pilot, I did a dual night cross country on a check run. It was a blast. Of course, I didn't have to do it to feed myself.
 
FWIW, good luck getting any customer service on electronically processed checks. I'm not talking about the processed/scanned checks, but the ones that are electronically processed where no check is returned to the bank.

Even with my credit union that nominally has great customer service, I had to jump up and down on someone's desk multiple times to fix a mis-processed check. Without the return check, it's an uphill battle.

Richman
 
Richman said:
FWIW, good luck getting any customer service on electronically processed checks. I'm not talking about the processed/scanned checks, but the ones that are electronically processed where no check is returned to the bank.

Even with my credit union that nominally has great customer service, I had to jump up and down on someone's desk multiple times to fix a mis-processed check. Without the return check, it's an uphill battle.

Richman
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Yup.. I deposited two checks at one branch, and they mistakenly scanned one check twice. They fixed it, called to let me know, but every check for the next six months had a multi day hold as if it were my fault. I closed the account shortly afterward. I'd hate for that to happen on an account I cared about.
 
NickH said:
Yup.. I deposited two checks at one branch, and they mistakenly scanned one check twice. They fixed it, called to let me know, but every check for the next six months had a multi day hold as if it were my fault. I closed the account shortly afterward. I'd hate for that to happen on an account I cared about.
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I had that happen to someone. You got off easy. In their case, the bank was doing sh*t to their credit rating too.
 
I'm told (so take that for what it's worth) that the alternator in a C172 is the same alternator in a chevy pickup, except with an A at the beginning of the part number to differentiate it between aviation approved and not. Although if it's the same alternator it's probably so they can tack a zero at the end of the sales price on the wrong end of the decimal.

Now, this was hangar talk so it could be completely wrong, but with how pricing in GA works, you never know.
 
gotWXdagain said:
I'm told (so take that for what it's worth) that the alternator in a C172 is the same alternator in a chevy pickup, except with an A at the beginning of the part number to differentiate it between aviation approved and not. Although if it's the same alternator it's probably so they can tack a zero at the end of the sales price on the wrong end of the decimal.

Now, this was hangar talk so it could be completely wrong, but with how pricing in GA works, you never know.
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I'm not sure if it was off a car, but the gen on my pacer was built by Delco-Remy.
 
gotWXdagain said:
I'm told (so take that for what it's worth) that the alternator in a C172 is the same alternator in a chevy pickup, except with an A at the beginning of the part number to differentiate it between aviation approved and not. Although if it's the same alternator it's probably so they can tack a zero at the end of the sales price on the wrong end of the decimal.

Now, this was hangar talk so it could be completely wrong, but with how pricing in GA works, you never know.
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That's an accurate statement. 12v alternators and older generators were straight from the Detroit assembly line but with a sweet FAA/PMA tag on them. The aircraft parts catalog often refer to "Ford Style" alternators.
 
CFI A&P said:
That's an accurate statement. 12v alternators and older generators were straight from the Detroit assembly line but with a sweet FAA/PMA tag on them. The aircraft parts catalog often refer to "Ford Style" alternators.
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It wouldn't at all surprise me if people were putting car alternators in their airplanes and saving some money. One of those things that seems perfectly fine to do, since it's the exact same thing, but that the FAA would frown upon if they found out.
 
gotWXdagain said:
It wouldn't at all surprise me if people were putting car alternators in their airplanes and saving some money. One of those things that seems perfectly fine to do, since it's the exact same thing, but that the FAA would frown upon if they found out.
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Many homebuilts have done that very thing, along with toggle switches, air filters, and a thousand other small items that cost 1/5th of the PMA Cessna or Piper parts.


The belt driven air conditioning compressor on a PT-6 is a GM part and identical to the one you can buy from Auto Zone. Great Lakes was inspected by the FAA and they found half their 1900 fleet didn't have "FAA approved" units installed.
 
gotWXdagain said:
It wouldn't at all surprise me if people were putting car alternators in their airplanes and saving some money. One of those things that seems perfectly fine to do, since it's the exact same thing, but that the FAA would frown upon if they found out.
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People put car alternator belts on their airplanes all the time. Once you take an airplane one and a car one out of the package, it's impossible to tell which is which.
 
gotWXdagain said:
I'm told (so take that for what it's worth) that the alternator in a C172 is the same alternator in a chevy pickup, except with an A at the beginning of the part number to differentiate it between aviation approved and not. Although if it's the same alternator it's probably so they can tack a zero at the end of the sales price on the wrong end of the decimal.

Now, this was hangar talk so it could be completely wrong, but with how pricing in GA works, you never know.
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An acquaintance lost a turbo over the Gulf coast, called the boss and was getting reamed, pilot then mentioned the ship that picked then up had a hook on the plane.
Non aviation rebuild turbo- settled out of court,.. Owners wife was on the plane- hhmnnnn.
 
gotWXdagain said:
I'm told (so take that for what it's worth) that the alternator in a C172 is the same alternator in a chevy pickup, except with an A at the beginning of the part number to differentiate it between aviation approved and not. Although if it's the same alternator it's probably so they can tack a zero at the end of the sales price on the wrong end of the decimal.

Now, this was hangar talk so it could be completely wrong, but with how pricing in GA works, you never know.
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Cessnas prior to the "single engine restart" use Ford alternators.
 
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