"We need 1,600 pilots."
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But would they hire me??
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Sounds like a sure thing
Screaming_Emu
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Are you sure he didn't say pirates?
Cloud Surfer
All Roads lead to Trantor
I also heard from a United first officer while deadheading that UAL will buy SkyWest. I try not to believe everything that I hear.
Screaming_Emu
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One of the last guys I flew with is convinced that with UPS's order for 747-8s, they're going to buy us. "Well, we are the only US operator of those. We have a lot of experience."Because a powerpoint slide and a few hours in front of a touchscreen FTD is beyond their expertise.
I really don't understand why pilots think we're all so smart. The job we do isn't that difficult and we're given a WHOLE bunch of training to learn how to do it. But once we master it we somehow think we're geniuses on every subject.
gne in prog
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from what i've learned in pilot lounges i'm pretty sure an atp is at least equivalent to an PHd in political science.
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
No no no, Skywest is buying United. Heard it from an XJET ALPA guy.
JOEFRIDAY2
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Some of the airlines that need (or needed) pilots have not yet figured out that they actually do need them.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Maybe from Trump University.
hook_dupin
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Well... United is in luck. There has been between 10,000 and 20,000 new ATP certificates issued every year since 2006. Data here:
I firmly believe there isn't a pilot shortage and there is more than enough pilots in the airline system for the majors to not have a labor supply issue.
To be fair, there's intense competition at the lower-wage spectrum of airline work. To me, that's a normal functioning market and not a "shortage."
I firmly believe there isn't a pilot shortage and there is more than enough pilots in the airline system for the majors to not have a labor supply issue.
To be fair, there's intense competition at the lower-wage spectrum of airline work. To me, that's a normal functioning market and not a "shortage."
BEEF SUPREME
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Damn that is a lot of ATPs
kryan11
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There's hardly a growth in any Private Pilot Certificates, and a decrease in Commercial Certificates, and yet almost double the amount of ATPs as Commercial Pilots being issued. It's just been the previous pool of Commercial Pilot's soaking up the opportunity to get their ATP. It will all catch up.
thehobbit
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That is still 8,000 plus commercial pilots a year. How long does it take a wet commercial pilot to reach atp mins? Three years at most working full time...
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
I was told Skywest could have bought UAL in '08 this week in my class!
And isn't Delta supposed to own Alaska by now?
BarbieDreamPilot
homeless
What's the source? How is it possible that, on average in the last 10 years, more pilots have received the ATP cert than the private cert? Was there some massive pool of private pilots from pre-2006 who decided to get ATPs in record numbers over the past 10 years? I've poked thorough the airman database and for any given first and last name the majority are private pilots. I'm not sure how those add up given that an ATP has to first earn a private pilot certificate.
Maybe the "certificates issued" column counts each type added to an ATP's cert separately.
Gonzo
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Where are you coming up with those numbers? Because per the FAA at https://www.faa.gov/data_research/a...statistics/media/2015-civil-airmen-stats.xlsx they have only given out about 12K ATPs over the last 10 years and most of those are because of the ATP rule.
