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That's pretty concerning that the crew doesn't know what aircraft they're flying.
There is a handful of difference with the NEO's.
 
Nark said:
That's pretty concerning that the crew doesn't know what aircraft they're flying.
There is a handful of difference with the NEO's.
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It was funny because at first I felt retarded after getting excited(never seen one and didn't expect to any time soon) and asking the crew if it hand flew differently only to more or less get, "Uh, wtf? This isn't a NEO I haven't flown one yet so I couldn't tell ya". So I felt retarded, but I was still pretty damn sure that Airbus looked different and googled the tail number and yep, it was a NEO hahaha. I didn't call them out or anything on the freq, though. I mean American flew a non-ETOPS A321 to Hawaii and controllers have cleared multiple planes to take off on a closed and unlit runway and no one questioned it until a call from airport ops...so...these things happen.
 
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A few randoms, 2 from fleetweek and one of a Frontier A320NEO...though the crew told me on freq it wasn't a NEO haha. This year I got the best fleetweek shots I've ever taken, says a lot with all simultaneous reach-arounds from @JordanD and @Adler all the while.


Frontier A320NEO N301FR at SFO by Chasen Richardson, on Flickr

Blue Angels passing ships in San Francisco Bay by Chasen Richardson, on Flickr

Sean D. Tucker passing Alcatraz at SF Fleetweek 2016 by Chasen Richardson, on Flickr
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What ramp do you work?
 
Nark said:
That's pretty concerning that the crew doesn't know what aircraft they're flying.
There is a handful of difference with the NEO's.
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Up front there aren't too many differences, and what ones do exist are generally subtle. I can see how if they had a long day they might assume it's another A320. Particularly when there is no difference operationally from the rest of the fleet save a longer warm up time on the new engines and a few abnormals that are different. It says something about the similarities that a presumably experienced crew was sitting in one and didn't realize that they were and that we can go fly them after a PowerPoint training session on the differences.

That said, with the FO generally being the one who does the walk around and the talking on the radio when on the ground, you'd think seeing the new style of fan blades would trigger something. Sometimes the level of disconnect is alarming.
 
etflies said:
Up front there aren't too many differences, and what ones do exist are generally subtle. I can see how if they had a long day they might assume it's another A320. Especially when there isn't any difference procedure-wise during normal ops other than taking up to 5min to start the engine.

That said, with the FO generally being the one who does the walk around and the talking on the radio when on the ground, you'd think seeing the new style of fan blades would trigger something. Sometimes the level of disconnect is alarming.
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Are the cowls latched?

I dunno? I guess.
 
Nark said:
Are the cowls latched?

I dunno? I guess.
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You've honestly never just brain farted?

Honest questions, do you guys have NEOs? Have you flown one? The differences are subtle at best when you're in the seat. It's much easier to tell from the outside that you're looking at a NEO than it is on the inside unless you glance at the placard on which the tail number is printed.

By the way, notice that I do agree with you. I'm playing devil's advocate in that I can see how a crew could miss it.
 
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Yup we have NEO's. Nope, never had the pleasure of seeing one in real life.

Got paid for the differences training. :)

I get not memorizing every detail. Hell I don't know what color my bird is after the walk around half the time. (In my defense we have like 3.5 different ones...)

However...
Part of the acceptance flow on the MCDU is verifying dates and engines...

The three questions I'm always asked after a walk around: are we chocked? Is the air hooked up? Is the fueler there?
 
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