UPS Flight Control Supervisor
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womanpilot73
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If you are hired into this position, you can't ever transfer over to dispatch. You can't go from management to union positions. You'd essentially have to quit and hope to be hired again into dispatch.
Delta Echo
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Is this the position that is basically the same as assistant dx, just with a management title?
Also, it is interesting this went up right after the assistant dx posting.
Also, it is interesting this went up right after the assistant dx posting.
womanpilot73
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No it is not. We have a need for some in management positions as well as union dispatchers.
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Flying Saluki
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Transfer? I would assume based on the title that this position is higher on the organization chart than dispatcher? Am I mistaken? And is this a position they would fill from outside the organization?
womanpilot73
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Flying Saluki said:
I was just stating that if you ever wanted to get into a union dispatch position that you couldn't from a management position. Yes, it is possible for an external applicant to be hired.
Is the pay good as opposed to a dispatcher? And I'm not asking for specifics, just a general idea.
I know the way things are supposed to work but the way you worded your response makes it seem like being a dispatcher would be more desirable than a sector manager, coordinator, supervisor, etc....
womanpilot73
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Rewind said:
It depends on what is important for you personally. Do you want to be a dispatcher or part of the management team? That's all I was getting at. You can't try management and then someday decide you want to be part of the union group. However, you can go from a union position to management, but then you can't go back. I'm only offering this up so people in a DISPATCH subforum can make an informed decision.
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Flying Saluki
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The job description implies that Flight Control Supervisors are dispatch qualified. Is that correct?
CPZ9900
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womanpilot73
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Flying Saluki said:
It is correct. They are qualified management personnel that sit a desk 4 times a year to stay current. They will cover shifts when needed when there are no dispatchers available.
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Flying Saluki
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Thank you for that. Is it fair to say that the average line dispatcher at UPS is not interested in this position? If not, why not?
I'm just asking because in my experience it's unusual to go outside the organization to fill a position like this. Or is the posting merely a formality?
womanpilot73
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Flying Saluki said:
In your experience, have you worked in a union position?
I don't know much about the hiring practices with management positions here other than to tell you that it's open to internal and external applicants.
manniax
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I believe dispatchers make more money there than the supervisors...which is part of why nobody in dispatch ever puts in for these jobs.
Not to mention the koolaid you must drink in management, most union folks won't stoop to that level.
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I always find it interesting to hear the different dynamics of other offices. In this case my ears perked up considerably when it was about UPS as back in the day they were on my short list of places I'd love to go.
In any case, I'm surprised the union would allow a nonunion employee dispatch a flight. There would be a grievance at a minimum where I'm at.
I've seen first hand the dangers of making dispatch (and someone with a certificate) so exclusive that it limits professional growth along with newbies making decisions they had no business making (someone from the outside getting hired directly to higher level operational decision making positions).
It's to bad the union couldnt try to be more inclusive and make a dispatcher position the entry level position within flight control and then branch out to lots of other positions (including management).
I'm sure the dynamic works for UPS cause that's how it's been for who knows how long so it is what it is. Good luck to whomever applies.
In any case, I'm surprised the union would allow a nonunion employee dispatch a flight. There would be a grievance at a minimum where I'm at.
I've seen first hand the dangers of making dispatch (and someone with a certificate) so exclusive that it limits professional growth along with newbies making decisions they had no business making (someone from the outside getting hired directly to higher level operational decision making positions).
It's to bad the union couldnt try to be more inclusive and make a dispatcher position the entry level position within flight control and then branch out to lots of other positions (including management).
I'm sure the dynamic works for UPS cause that's how it's been for who knows how long so it is what it is. Good luck to whomever applies.