Bandit_Driver
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Convair's will slowly be retired
They may also end up on some other contract Falcon runs if the loads are right.
IFL has CRJs now...
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They may also end up on some other contract Falcon runs if the loads are right.
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Gasp! Shots fired!!It's not like they're tall enough for the 99 to fly under either.
Bandit_Driver
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jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
FIFY, because the power line scored a direct hit.
We need you all week here in TUS!
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Back in my Canadian wilderness days, you could hear a Hawker (748) before you saw it.
Those damned Darts. My ears are still ringing.
The Viscounts we used to have here at TUS doing charter were loud with 4 of them, but that was a while ago.
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
I still remember management coming to PHX for a meeting with the pilot group, saying "Ameriflight will be the first freight operator of the CRJ". Nevermind the fact that some European company was already using them to haul mail.
DE727UPS
Well-Known Member
Well, before that I had flown Aero Commander 500's, so that was my frame of reference. The Darts had water injection that was good for a few minutes and it was fine until you turned the water off. After that you'd get 500 to 1000 fpm depending on how hot it was and how heavy you were. I was flying mail on an Evergreen subcontract between LAS and LAX. Many a time we had to circle once or twice to meet the MEA on the airway climbing out of LAS.
All training was done in the airplane with it empty. It did damn well with one feathered and no freight in the back. Pretty heavy on the rudder though....
The 580 could do on one motor what we could do on two. Totally different animal. I think they were 4000 shp per side wet and we were 3000 with the dart.
This might have been me. Have to check my logbook.
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Interesting, as IFL was the launch customer for the first U.S. conversion, that was announced years ago.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Yeah... But a jet, even a little Canadian one, still makes a big hole in the ground if it comes down.
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
This was going on 3 years ago, before the IFL order was announced. Truthfully, I don't think the big market for CRJ freighters is going to be the 200. It will be the 700/900 as they get parked in large numbers down the road.
I guess that would depend on the mission. I can see a 200 replacing some of the smaller runs and doing more with less. Like two or three stops on current UPS-Fedex runs that are currently served by companies like AMF.
z987k
Well-Known Member
Hopefully their scope doesn't allow it.
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
I think UPS is wide open with this. FedEx limits feeder flying to 8000 pounds I think. MAC or Empire ATR guys might know more.
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
I'm only Caravan scum, but I'm not sure if FedEx's contract allows the feeders to fly jets. I know IFL group has a Falcon 20 run that does TVF-MEM, but IFL isn't technically a FedEx feeder. We used to fly Fokker F-27s (Which the ATRs replaced), and now the ATRs are getting really old and ratty. Plus, they break all the time so there's that too. I've heard rumors about replacements to include the CRJ, but I'm not sure if that's even possible.
Scope clauses might need to be relaxed due to lack of suitable airframes to replace all the clapped out 1900's and Metroliner's. I can see this backing some operations into a corner.
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How dare you.