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Stinger said:
I've also heard to never buy an airplane that has a Franklin engine.
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Again, like the Rotax, if you're going to operate one, find a mechanic who knows how to work on them. They're very smooth engines from what I've been told about them, but if you don't run them right, forget it. Much like the GO-300 that Cessna ran for a while, good engine, but people didn't know how to operate them.
 
pete2800 said:
I'm trying to find a place that will rent me a Super Decathlon, solo, with parachutes. Bonus points if near the Seattle area. Anyone know of anything?
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A little further down the coast (well almost all the way) at SZP. CP Aviation has a couple Decathlons and Citabrias. You may have to take one of their Emergency Maneuver Training blocks to solo one. Can't remember. @TwoTwoLeft probably has better info.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Again, like the Rotax, if you're going to operate one, find a mechanic who knows how to work on them. They're very smooth engines from what I've been told about them, but if you don't run them right, forget it. Much like the GO-300 that Cessna ran for a while, good engine, but people didn't know how to operate them.
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If your mechanic can't work on a rotax, then he shouldn't be anywhere near a lycoming or continental. The most difficult part of the motor is syncing the carbs if you've got such a model. But if a backyard mechanic can sync 4 carbs on a motorcycle with $1.50 in parts from home depot, so should your mechanic. If the pilot can't operate a 912 then they really should just stay on the ground.
 
z987k said:
If your mechanic can't work on a rotax, then he shouldn't be anywhere near a lycoming or continental. The most difficult part of the motor is syncing the carbs if you've got such a model. But if a backyard mechanic can sync 4 carbs on a motorcycle with $1.50 in parts from home depot, so should your mechanic. If the pilot can't operate a 912 then they really should just stay on the ground.
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Oh I know, but you know how pilots are, if it's different at all, they can't be bothered to learn how to operate the engines properly, then complain about them later...

A good portion of my 912 time was with reversible props, boy was that a lot of fun to get to play with.
 
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KSCessnaDriver said:
Oh I know, but you know how pilots are, if it's different at all, they can't be bothered to learn how to operate the engines properly, then complain about them later...

A good portion of my 912 time was with reversible props, boy was that a lot of fun to get to play with.
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I mean.... there's not really anything different. It's geared, but so are a lot of engines. Especially turbine.
 
z987k said:
I mean.... there's not really anything different. It's geared, but so are a lot of engines. Especially turbine.
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But compared to light piston engines, especially singles, the last real widely spread geared engine was the Continental GO-300, and that went over like a lead balloon, because people didn't operate them correctly.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
But compared to light piston engines, especially singles, the last real widely spread geared engine was the Continental GO-300, and that went over like a lead balloon, because people didn't operate them correctly.
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Yes, but the gearbox on a GO-300 or a GO-435/480 are not the same as a gearbox in a 912. The overload clutch being a big thing. I can't imagine anyone doing any damage to it if they flew it like it was an O-200. Keep the needles in the green and out of the red.
All of the larger radials were geared to. Anything bigger than the R-985.
 
pete2800 said:
I'm trying to find a place that will rent me a Super Decathlon, solo, with parachutes. Bonus points if near the Seattle area. Anyone know of anything?
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Aspen Flying Club (the school mentioned in the original post) will rent you an extreme decathlon with chutes, solo. They will even let you take it to aerobatic competitions. They are in the Denver area.
 
Oakland Flyers at KOAK has a Citabria (chutes not current) that you can solo, as well as a Rockwell Commander. $85/hr dry for the Citabria, $115 dry for the 114.
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pete2800 said:
I'm trying to find a place that will rent me a Super Decathlon, solo, with parachutes. Bonus points if near the Seattle area. Anyone know of anything?
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West Valley Flying Club in Palo Alto shows an 8KCAB with chutes at $149/hour wet. They also have 2 7ECAs at $115/hour and 1 7GCAA at $125/hour. Years ago I used a little aerobatic practice area on the bay side of the ridge line southwest of SJC. Not sure how the airspace has changed since then, but that would probably still work okay.

I like Santa Paula as well. That's were I learned aerobatics in the early 80s. Back then we'd turn downwind towards the practice area; roll inverted once above 1500 feet AGL; and climb out the rest of the way inverted. Good little aerobatic community back then with Ken Larson and Bill Cornick as the main players. Ken was a B-17 pilot in WWII; hired at Braniff in 1948; he flew the Concorde on the deal Braniff had with BA and AF; then was very active in the IAC after retiring. Bill was my instructor. He was still going strong as of last year even though he's over 80 years old now. Awesome aerobatic pilot and instructor.


Typhoonpilot
 
typhoonpilot said:
West Valley Flying Club in Palo Alto shows an 8KCAB with chutes at $149/hour wet. They also have 2 7ECAs at $115/hour and 1 7GCAA at $125/hour. Years ago I used a little aerobatic practice area on the bay side of the ridge line southwest of SJC. Not sure how the airspace has changed since then, but that would probably still work okay.

I like Santa Paula as well. That's were I learned aerobatics in the early 80s. Back then we'd turn downwind towards the practice area; roll inverted once above 1500 feet AGL; and climb out the rest of the way inverted. Good little aerobatic community back then with Ken Larson and Bill Cornick as the main players. Ken was a B-17 pilot in WWII; hired at Braniff in 1948; he flew the Concorde on the deal Braniff had with BA and AF; then was very active in the IAC after retiring. Bill was my instructor. He was still going strong as of last year even though he's over 80 years old now. Awesome aerobatic pilot and instructor.


Typhoonpilot
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SZP still is a great little aerobatic community. I was born and raised there. We've had a hangar there for almost 30 years (which I lived in for about 8 years) My dad was an instructor at the building you probably flew out of but was at Continental by the ’80's (until Lorenzo that is). He taught aerobatics in one of the first S2B's on the west coast. He was the top Decathlon/Citabria salesman in the country a couple times in the mid ’70's. If you make it back this way hit me up.
 
PositionAndHold said:
SZP still is a great little aerobatic community. I was born and raised there. We've had a hangar there for almost 30 years (which I lived in for about 8 years) My dad was an instructor at the building you probably flew out of but was at Continental by the ’80's (until Lorenzo that is). He taught aerobatics in one of the first S2B's on the west coast. He was the top Decathlon/Citabria salesman in the country a couple times in the mid ’70's. If you make it back this way hit me up.
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Would love to drop by SZP again someday, thanks for the invite.

Last time I was near there was overhead the airport in the back of Robert Converse's P-51 Huntress III.


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Check out Adventure Flight they have a Tailorcraft, SNJ, T50 bamboo bomber and a Stearman. The owner/instructor is a good dude
 
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DrunkenWoodpecker said:
available for aerobatics contests with a club sign-off
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Really? Because when the S2 was on there I don't think the Super D nor Pitts could be taken to contests.

Attitude aviation in LVK has some cool stuff, I used to teach in most of it. Citabria, Pitts, Great Lakes, Waco, T-6, Marchetti SF260, L-39 etc.
 
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