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CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Me asking a question about the adx should mean nothing to you. Again you don't see me budging into your forum. You all just need to let it go.

Worst attitude ever. Pilots and dispatchers work together. Rather than take offense to a pilot weighing in, be grateful for it. We all help and learn from each other. Your attitude is only going to hurt you. Get it in check fast or be ready for a very rough career.
 
Worst attitude ever. Pilots and dispatchers work together. Rather than take offense to a pilot weighing in, be grateful for it. We all help and learn from each other. Your attitude is only going to hurt you. Get it in check fast or be ready for a very rough career.

This.

I don't mean to jump in on the hate bandwagon, but working with pilots isn't just a nicety, it's in the regs! As a dispatcher, you share operational control with the pilot in command, and the dispatch release is a legal document (contract if you will), that both the PIC AND dispatcher agree that a flight can be conducted safely.

Now will there be times when you get a captain that is difficult? Of course! In some cases, Captains could say the same for dispatchers, too. At the end of the day, it's about making sure the flight operates in the safest manner possible, and you WILL have to deal with people that you don't agree with occasionally in order to do your job.

I can speak from personal experience on this one. I took the hard way to get my dispatch license by listening to every pilot, every dispatcher, every crew scheduler, and studying my @$$ off. I didn't go to a sheffield, or a Jeppesen, or an IFOD type school. I learned on the job at my shop. I asked a million questions from everyone and anyone that would help me. In the end, I found that you get WAY more bees with honey than with vinegar. People are much more likely to help you on your journey if you stay humble and accept their help. We are all here to help one other, learn from each other, and maybe even recommend someone we know for a bigger and better job.

But that all depends on ATTITUDE. One of the most important lessons I learned in this business (aside from what density altitude is..haha), is that ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING. Some say there are six degrees of seperation between people in general. In aviation, there are probably one or two degrees. Have a good attitude, and people will help you and build relationships with you. Have a bad attitude, and you might as well pick another career, because the damage is already done.

The good news is that you can change the story. Having a good attitude, even in rough circumstances, is a choice. If you dismiss others opinions, no matter how trivial, you do more harm than good to yourself and your reputation. I don't know what you did before deciding to become a dispatcher, but imagine someone younger (or with less experience) trying to tell you how you should do your job. Feels pretty disrespectful, doesn't it? That's what I imagine most people on here feel like. If you change the story, flip your attitude, or at least show that you respect others' opinions even though you might disagree with them, it goes such a long way.

In the immortal words of Dr. Rumack: "Good luck...we're all counting on you."
 
Worst attitude ever. Pilots and dispatchers work together. Rather than take offense to a pilot weighing in, be grateful for it. We all help and learn from each other. Your attitude is only going to hurt you. Get it in check fast or be ready for a very rough career.
no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.

Wow. Just wow. I can officially say I'm happy you don't have SDF in your sights. You're going to have one heck of a rough ride.
 
no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.

I hear a lot of the dispatchers where I'm at address the pilot on the other end of the phone as "Captain". I try to do the same when I have to make calls as well. "captain so and so" "first officer gear puller". It's not ass kissing. It's a respect thing,a little goes a long way.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.

Spoken like someone who has no concept of cooperation, leadership, or chain of command.

Respect is earned, not given. It's not just a Marine Corps slogan. You might have a brain sir, and it might be a brilliant one, but you have absolutely no common sense.
 
no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.
Hopefully that works out for you on your way to AA. Since you have connections why do you even post here?
 
based on your argument you must have no connections
You've outted me, my jig is up.

Several on here, including me, have tried to be nice and point out to you that you might want to change your tone. You continue to know better and come back with some immature remark or phrase when people try to show you the error in your way. As you progress you will hopefully see that your connection today might not exist tomorrow. It helps to gain knowledge, interact with others, and make your goals known without sounding arrogant. I cannot tell you how many people from this site (not just pilots) have been able to help one another move onward and upward with their respective careers.
 
^ This. Aviation is a very small world. That captain you don't want to show professional courtesy today could end up being the director of Ops at a company you want to work for some day. Weirder things have happened. Burning bridges in this industry is a bad thing.


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no its not- consistent combative attitudes should be held accountable. Everytime I ask a simple quesiton some random pilot has to come in here and cause trouble. I'm not kissing the ring as I'm sure some of you do. "Yes sir, commander, sir. Would you like a donut, sir? 200 more kg sir, yes sir.? " I have a brain too.

Not sure why I am am bothering, but I will give this one last try here..

CRJ - you do realize that when you post in the forum, you are not dealing just with other prospective dispatchers, right? I don't personally know everyone that you have felt offended by (that would be a lot of people, I imagine) but it's a fair bet to say that most of the pilots who have responded to your posts here have been flying commercially for a while. Many of the dispatchers here have had their license and been working as a dispatcher for years (or even decades, in my case.) When we give you advice, it might be worth listening to if you really do want to work as a dispatcher for American someday. As others have said, attitude is a big part of success in this industry. A prospective candidate who demonstrates a negative or know-it-all attitude will rarely get a job offer at any airline...regional, supplemental, or major. I have no idea what you do for a living now, but being a professional dispatcher involves treating the pilots you are in communication with respectfully, as fellow aviation professionals. If you can't understand how that works, you're seriously better off not spending the money on dispatcher school.
 
Seriously, y'all are letting an obvious troll run rampant over this forum. Stop the insanity.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I think you and @belgiumania may well be right. (Many others have publicly voiced their suspicions on the matter already, I know.) It was a final attempt on my part at rational discussion, probably a futile effort. Still, it has been entertaining at times, I'll give him credit for that. :) I'll do my best to ignore said poster from now on.
 
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