Delta drivers?

This is like when you wake up the morning after a house party to find guys in the living room still going!

:ooh::ooh::ooh:
 
Derg said:
You're damned right it was!

Now, I'd like to lead a discussion on how blatantly idiotic "SEEE YUH" sounds on the radio and half the time you just end up stepping on the next guy...
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Flew a ATC guy the other day that knew the controller who coined that. Denver center is where it originated from.
 
Hacker15e said:
Well, we were told that if we don't sweat the small stuff, we're probably also not sweating the larger stuff, so.....
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It's one thing to sweat that little stuff within our sphere of influence. It's another thing to lose sleep about things outside our sphere of influence.

Many years ago when I was an LT I was flying a mission in Korea with an old crusty CW4 who had been shot down several times in Viet Nam.
The mission was a fiasco. A FARP went down so something like 2 brigades of aircraft (somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 aircraft if I remember correctly), where trying to hot refuel from 4 points. Our low fuel lights were flashing as we were on final and tower tried to wave us off as the airfield was overwhelmed with aircraft. We landed anyway and got in line for gas.
Students were rioting outside the fence and throwing rocks at the aircraft. Everyone was trying to get way from the fence, but also get gas before they flamed out.
There sat the CW4 as if nothing was going on. With his visor down I was not sure he was awake. I asked him several times if we wanted to jostle in for gas before we flamed out. "No, we're good." "But what if we flame out???" He shrugged. "We're on the ground. So what." Eventually one engine flamed out, then the other. A rearm/refuel guy came to the window as the blades were coasting down and yelled that we could not park there. He just shrugged again and told him, "Out of gas." Eventually they pushed us into the FARP, we got gas, and went on our way.
In the meantime a pilot (who was a really good guy, BTW), was a little more "ambitious". He needed gas as well and in his hurry to get to the FARP he meshed blades with another aircraft sending pieces went all over. Miraculously no one was hurt, but airframes were bent. A few years earlier a similar situation occurred in Korea but people were killed by the flying parts.

I'm sure you saw similar scenarios in the Air Force. It's a story that has stuck with me over the years and one I remember when things are not normal on the ground. If there is confusion, I can't see... whatever.... I set the brake and we sit until things are sorted out. I get paid by the hour anyway.
 
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I was just saying to fellow JC'er this morning that what I love about the airlines is that "there's no war here". A very welcome change of scenery and a much easier situation to have perspective on.
 
Blackhawk said:
It's one thing to sweat that little stuff within our sphere of influence. It's another thing to lose sleep about things outside our sphere of influence.

Many years ago when I was an LT I was flying a mission in Korea with an old crusty CW4 who had been shot down several times in Viet Nam.
The mission was a fiasco. A FARP went down so something like 2 brigades of aircraft (somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 aircraft if I remember correctly), where trying to hot refuel from 4 points. Our low fuel lights were flashing as we were on final and tower tried to wave us off as the airfield was overwhelmed with aircraft. We landed anyway and got in line for gas.
Students were rioting outside the fence and throwing rocks at the aircraft. Everyone was trying to get way from the fence, but also get gas before they flamed out.
There sat the CW4 as if nothing was going on. With his visor down I was not sure he was awake. I asked him several times if we wanted to jostle in for gas before we flamed out. "No, we're good." "But what if we flame out???" He shrugged. "We're on the ground. So what." Eventually one engine flamed out, then the other. A rearm/refuel guy came to the window as the blades were coasting down and yelled that we could not park there. He just shrugged again and told him, "Out of gas." Eventually they pushed us into the FARP, we got gas, and went on our way.
In the meantime a pilot (who was a really good guy, BTW), was a little more "ambitious". He needed gas as well and in his hurry to get to the FARP he meshed blades with another aircraft sending pieces went all over. Miraculously no one was hurt, but airframes were bent. A few years earlier a similar situation occurred in Korea but people were killed by the flying parts.

I'm sure you saw similar scenarios in the Air Force. It's a story that has stuck with me over the years and one I remember when things are not normal on the ground. If there is confusion, I can't see... whatever.... I set the brake and we sit until things are sorted out. I get paid by the hour anyway.
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When I upgraded at ASA, one of the instructors taught me something that has stuck with me ever since. "The two things that will get you into trouble as a pilot are creativity and ambition."

Words to live by!
 
Hacker15e said:
I was just saying to fellow JC'er this morning that what I love about the airlines is that "there's no war here". A very welcome change of scenery and a much easier situation to have perspective on.
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You'd be surprised at the number of guys (at the majors anyway, not so much the regionals) who treat getting passengers from point a to point b like a CAS mission with Charlie almost inside the wire.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
"This sortie..."

-rolls eyes-
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I think I'd strangle my copilot for that.

On a side note, I used to always say "first officer" when I was a, well, first officer. Now "co pilot" just rolls off the tongue so smoothly and efficiently.

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Derg said:
I think I'd strangle my copilot for that.

On a side note, I used to always say "first officer" when I was a, well, first officer. Now "co pilot" just rolls off the tongue so smoothly and efficiently.

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I go back and forth on preferred terminology nowadays. One Captain on the Brasilia gave a very good explanation of why he thinks "copilot" is a much better term than "first officer (basically, emphasizing the fact that we are both pilots)," so whatever.

oh, and re: it's happening: are you planning on growing an out-of-compliance 'stache to go with your Captaincy, Your Captaincy?
 
Derg said:
You're damned right it was!

Now, I'd like to lead a discussion on how blatantly idiotic "SEEE YUH" sounds on the radio and half the time you just end up stepping on the next guy...
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Sorry, you were either blocked on Delta Ground (121.5) or just plain damn BLOCKED!
 
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