Skw CRJ Landing incident LAX, plus airport ARFF info

Autothrust Blue said:
They do put them out during pushback, a procedure I personally wrinkle my large nose up at.
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Doug?
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Derg said:
Just curious. From my angle from the comfortable leather couch, it looks like it as only resting on the nosegear but if they had a right main, it makes sense now.
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Even if the nose was resting on the ground, the main door would be the easy to egress from. The service door on the opposite side would be easy too but requires ducking to get out. The window exits are a major pain to get through.
 
A Life Aloft said:
The ARFF department at LAX is pretty cool. They have 7 trucks, I believe. There are also two other FD's adjacent to the airport which are available to the airport if needed. They got a new much larger building west of the Bradley and in between the North and South runways, a couple of years back. Their response time goal is 3 minutes or less to an incident.


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Good department indeed. They were lucky in 1991 when USAir 1493 crashed into their auxiliary fire station after skidding into it following the landing collision with Skywest 5569. That station was empty at the time,.

The bottom pic is a bit dated, but cool, as the far end truck is an Oshkosh M4000, a huge truck that was a civilian version of the huge military P-15, slightly different and with a slightly reduced water tank. Not many were built. LAX used one of these, as well as ATL, PHX, and TUS. PHXs former M4000 is in California somehwere and appeared as background in a few episodes of the show Entourage. TUSs former M4000 is in the Pima Air & Space museum in Tucson.
 
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MikeD said:
Good department indeed. They were lucky in 1991 when USAir 1493 crashed into their auxiliary fire station after skidding into it following the landing collision with Skywest 5569. That station was empty at the time,.

The bottom pic is a bit dated, but cool, as the far end truck is an Oshkosh M4000, a huge truck that was a civilian version of the huge military P-15, slightly different and with a slightly reduced water tank. Not many were built. LAX used one of these, as well as ATL, PHX, and TUS. PHXs former M4000 is in California somehwere and appeared as background in a few episodes of the show Entourage. TUSs former M4000 is in the Pima Air & Space museum in Tucson.
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If anyone else posted that specific info I would say they were pulling it out of their ass. But nope.
 
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MikeD said:
Good department indeed. They were lucky in 1991 when USAir 1493 crashed into their auxiliary fire station after skidding into it following the landing collision with Skywest 5569. That station was empty at the time,.

The bottom pic is a bit dated, but cool, as the far end truck is an Oshkosh M4000, a huge truck that was a civilian version of the huge military P-15, slightly different and with a slightly reduced water tank. Not many were built. LAX used one of these, as well as ATL, PHX, and TUS. PHXs former M4000 is in California somehwere and appeared as background in a few episodes of the show Entourage. TUSs former M4000 is in the Pima Air & Space museum in Tucson.
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Bejebus, I can't believe the things you know and keep up with. lol Amazing, really. All I know is that I think they have three or four sprayer trucks for water or foam, a truck with a platform/stairs mounted to it and two other trucks of some sort. I don't even know the names of the various trucks let alone the models of them. The old building was so small they couldn't even park all the trucks inside of it and the ceiling was much lower. They now have their own observation deck, raised glass enclosed command center/ new dorms, big kitchen/rec area/bigger maintenance area and 7 bays for all the trucks now.

Remember the Pan Am bombing back in the 70's at LAX? That was a hella deal.
 
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A Life Aloft said:
The ARFF department at LAX is pretty cool. They have 7 trucks, I believe. There are also two other FD's adjacent to the airport which are available to the airport if needed.
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Ladder 5! A high school buddy of mine works in the station just north of the field. They too got a new facility not that long ago. He tells me they have a certain drilling regiment for airport incidents. I'm sure @MikeD would understand the jargon, I get lost about 45 seconds into the explanation.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
especially since it provides cautionary messages
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Risk of FLAP (SLAT) FAIL (FAULT) = marginal, and if it happens, taxi back. (Since you have multiple settings as well, it's not worth getting the wrong one. Takeoff flap selection should be a "one hundred percent from both pilots" process.)

Risk of dragging airplane over an obstruction = real and observed at least once in my career. (And expensive)

At this point, I must preach what my Dad preaches, namely:

RULE NUMBER ONE IS DO NOT HURRY.
 
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A Life Aloft said:
Bejebus, I can't believe the things you know and keep up with. lol Amazing, really. All I know is that I think they have three or four sprayer trucks for water or foam, a truck with a platform/stairs mounted to it and two other trucks of some sort. I don't even know the names of the various trucks let alone the models of them. The old building was so small they couldn't even park all the trucks inside of it and the ceiling was much lower. They now have their own observation deck, raised glass enclosed command center/ new dorms, big kitchen/rec area/bigger maintenance area and 7 bays for all the trucks now.

Remember the Pan Am bombing back in the 70's at LAX? That was a hella deal.
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I personally want to know how @MikeD does it, and maybe, just maybe when (if) I grow up, be a fourth as cool as he is.
 
Derg said:
Quick question, just arm-chair quarterbacking here, but is the normal passenger boarding door the best choice for egressing out of the aircraft with an obvious gear problem? I figure if the nose gear lets go, some passenger is going to "Trebuchet".
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Of course I had to google "human trebuchet". Not. Disappointed.

 
amorris311 said:
Ladder 5! A high school buddy of mine works in the station just north of the field. They too got a new facility not that long ago. He tells me they have a certain drilling regiment for airport incidents. I'm sure @MikeD would understand the jargon, I get lost about 45 seconds into the explanation.
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Cool! He must be at the station just off Century not far from the Hilton then. His and the one on Sepulveda are the two that are on the ready for any additional help needed at LAX. They have some large drills on the airport property fairly regularly and all sorts of training that goes on there as well that all three departments participate in.
 
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