German Wings A320 crashed

Screaming_Emu said:
Yup. I don't understand why everyone is in such a hurry to know what happened before everyone else. Wait for the damn report.
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As a pax, I don't want to wait for the report - I want to know as soon as possible if there's a safety threat. No need to wait to start implementing stricter regulations about not leaving one person alone in the cockpit. Not going to hurt anything by doing that before the report comes out.
 
Derg said:
No and man, I don't think I'd be giving "tips and tricks" to the open internet.
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Apparently they're not going that direction over on another website that features pretty pictures of airplanes:

Some Idiot Over On Airliners.net said:
As a flight attendant flying A320 family aircraft pretty much everyday. The door procedure is like this:
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Screaming_Emu said:
Yup. I don't understand why everyone is in such a hurry to know what happened before everyone else. Wait for the damn report.
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In crashes where there isn't nearly enough info to get any kind of prelim report out, I agree. However, when 2 days after the crash the investigation can already declare the F/O locked out the CA and murdered all those innocent people, I fully support getting that info out ASAP. At least that way people know its not an Airbus problem, and can be at ease knowing this crash doesn't pose any kind of inherent threat that the flying public, pilots, or aircraft operators need to worry about. It was an isolated and tragic event.

That being said. Holy crap. I'm stunned. How horrible for all those people to watch the captain locked out banging on the door as the plane drops rather quickly into the alps on a clear day. My God. Those poor souls.

Now, let's see the knee-jerk reactions as to how to prevent this in the future as if we didn't know this could ever happen and it was an unthinkable act. Oh, wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAM_Mozambique_Airlines_Flight_470

Not even 2 years ago in 2013, an E190 pilot did the same thing in Africa killing a plane full of innocent people. But being in Africa, it barely made press here in the States and there was no internet uproar. Kill a bunch of people in a 1st world nation, and suddenly people care. Whatever becomes of this, had the aviation world given a crap about what happens "over there", the measures to prevent this sort of thing could have already been in place.

We really need to live in the WORLD and not the Western World. What happens over there does matter over here.
 
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If what they are saying is true, I'm 99% sure the cause for him taking the plane down was a piece of tail(or man parts). Soul Brotha' don't judge.
 
I forget but is an FA up front when there's only one pilot a GOM thing thing pretty much everyone uses or a FAR thing? And either way, why is it not an EASA/ICAO thing?
 
z987k said:
I forget but is an FA up front when there's only one pilot a GOM thing thing pretty much everyone uses or a FAR thing? And either way, why is it not an EASA/ICAO thing?
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Airline policy. From what I've read on an expat forum, Lufthansa(parent company) did not require that.
 
Beep said:
The fact that the SIC was a low time pilot is not germane to the situation.
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FWIW, I wrote that before learning about his Devine Wind bit.

However, I would point out the irony that the Europeans have historically been stricter than the US with procedures and regulations in aviation and security. Under current US ops and laws, he 1) would not have been employed by the air carrier and 2) would not have been up front alone.


pullup said:
We need pilot-less planes! But we need to start with cameras in the flight deck first.

Yeah, that's right, I pulled that pin...
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Nope. That 28 y/o DB pulled it yesterday at FL380.
 
What a creepy turn of events. Was he nuts or was this a carefully coordinated and planned? Where others involved? There are more questions to answer now then there would have been if it was an actual accident.
 
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