New Airplane for ATN

Cav said:
If I had the cash I'd buy a King Air and pay someone else to fly it when I didn't feel like it. "That takeoff was fun Steve, you have yourself a nice evening. I'm going back for a nap. Make sure you wake me up ten mins out. I might take the landing on the way back tomorrow afternoon but I'll let you know."
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You get me. :)
 
Based on what looks fun to fly, I'd get a Swift or something quick and nimble with a tailwheel. If you want us the airplane to get around, I don't see anything wrong with a Baron or Cirrus. I'd personally rather have a Cirrus. You know you like that automation.

Cav said:
If I had the cash I'd buy a King Air and pay someone else to fly it when I didn't feel like it.

"That takeoff was fun Steve, you have yourself a nice evening. I'm going back for a nap. Make sure you wake me up ten mins out. I might take the landing on the way back tomorrow afternoon but I'll let you know."
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This. I already treat my car like that. Except I would want a jeeeeeeeeeeeet.
 
Polar742 said:
So if you're going to travel, get a twin. Yes, it costs more, but much like not having insurance, do you really want to have your last thought to be "FUUDGE, really wish I hadn't been so cheap" (except it wasn't fudge) as you descend into a low overcast as a glider.

Can't go wrong with a Commander 1000. ;-)

If you're putzing around local area, get a piece of art or history.
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Having spent plenty of time away from the field with zero engines, I think a single is fine enroute. At a reasonable altitude, not over water, you will have plenty of options for landing.

Close to the airport, you have plenty of ways to kill yourself in a twin, and the engine failure is twice as likely.
 
I would fear that a Baron would become a money pit. But I'm the absolute wrong person to ask since I can't see a scenario where I would own a personal plane.
 
If I had money to buy a plane for personal reasons I would get a V-tail.

Is there a local flight school close by? If you wanted a light twin you could lease it back to offset a lot of the cost. You could even make some pretty good money of of it.
 
Cav said:
I would fear that a Baron would become a money pit. But I'm the absolute wrong person to ask since I can't see a scenario where I would own a personal plane.
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That's a risk with any airplane. Compared to a Duke the Baron is reliable as a hammer, but it's all about the upkeep.
 
Goonie said:
Is there a local flight school close by? If you wanted a light twin you could lease it back to offset a lot of the cost. You could even make some pretty good money of of it.
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Honest question, do people really MAKE money in these arrangements or do they break even or come close enough thay they can justify ownership expense? I have no solid reason for feeling this way but I can think of a bunch of better ways to "make" money. It seems more about ownership justification than investment.
 
Goonie said:
If I had money to buy a plane for personal reasons I would get a V-tail.

Is there a local flight school close by? If you wanted a light twin you could lease it back to offset a lot of the cost. You could even make some pretty good money of of it.
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Until some student flies into IMC, bury your plane three feet into the ground, and posthumously sues you. Happened to a guy I co-owned a plane with.
 
Cav said:
Honest question, do people really MAKE money in these arrangements or do they break even or come close enough thay they can justify ownership expense? I have no solid reason for feeling this way but I can think of a bunch of better ways to "make" money. It seems more about ownership justification than investment.
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It really depends on the flight school, and the demand for the aircraft being leased to them. A 172 should make money being leased back. Something like a Baron, not so much.
 
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milleR said:
That's a risk with any airplane. Compared to a Duke the Baron is reliable as a hammer, but it's all about the upkeep.
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I'm speaking more along the lines of twin v single engine. Given the choice between a twin and a Cirrus, I'd go Cirrus.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
Close to the airport, you have plenty of ways to kill yourself in a twin,
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That argument makes a lot of sense if you're talking to a doctor who has a couple hundred hours of twin time. That person is the reason that the stats are so bad for multi accidents. It doesn't make as much sense for someone who has thousands of hours of multi time and hundreds of V1 cuts practiced.

I'd rather keep flying than look for a place to land a dead single.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
That argument makes a lot of sense if you're talking to a doctor who has a couple hundred hours of twin time. That person is the reason that the stats are so bad for multi accidents. It doesn't make as much sense for someone who has thousands of hours of multi time and hundreds of V1 cuts practiced.

I'd rather keep flying than look for a place to land a dead single.
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Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
 
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