which regional would you choose?

STS-41B said:
if DEN closes do you think IAH will become more junior or senior? Also, why is DEN closing? Because of TSA taking over there?
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XJT DEN closure announced yesterday. Not sure Jr. or Sr. TSA is getting XJT jets Dino guess they can just leave the keys at the counter as they leave.

I friend just got to DEN from IAH and is worried if he can get back to IAH. Also no word on MCI at all in the memo.
 
We were supposed to open a base in March. But I heard it was pushed to May, so who knows. We are getting two xr this month and starting them out of Dulles.
 
My advice: Don't go to XJT. Even if all you want to do is fly an RJ and be based in a certain domicile, there's no guarentee you'll even get that. You have no control on what side of the fence you get put on (hence where you'll be based) and there is no light in sight for a joint contract. You'll be on reserve forever and you'll never get a shot at PIC time.

I met a guy that only wanted to be based in ATL. He lived in south GA and that's all he cared about. He interviewed, got awarded the CRJ and thought all was well. After his first week of INDOC they told them the entire class was going to IAH for systems and was going to be on the ERJ side. They told them not to worry though, "After we get a joint contract, you'll be able to bid back to ATL." This was almost five years ago and he's still doing a two leg commute to his ERJ domicile.
 
@mastermags couldn't be more right. I will use a guy I've met in my previous life that worked at Mesa. This person lives in CID and felt Mesa was his best choice because of their ORD base. ORD is a huge hub and United loves RJ's right? Well, that base closed before the guy even got to the line. I'm sure he's 2 legging it to IAD or DFW now. I think AA might do a CID-DFW but that's besides the point. Bases open and close all the time. Commuting sucks and I get it, but I would never move or make a decision based on a domicile. It's short sighted and there's other big picture things to consider. You just need to decide for yourself 2 things if commuting and bases are a sticking point for you. A) Just commute if it's not meant to be B) Move every time you get displaced because your base just closed. I'm an option A person.
 
To the OP, in this hiring environment why are you limiting yourself to XJT and GoJet? The answer is definitely neither. Endeavor, TSA, Compass, PSA, Mesa, Piedmont heck even Eagle offer vastly superior opportunity
 
Trip7 said:
To the OP, in this hiring environment why are you limiting yourself to XJT and GoJet? The answer is definitely neither. Endeavor, TSA, Compass, PSA, Mesa, Piedmont heck even Eagle offer vastly superior opportunity
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And SKW, C5, and AW
 
Soku39 said:
Good info, still wouldn't do it for upgrade time, I'm not all about teh fast upgraydze, but I'm also not about sitting in the right seat for 7 years.
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Apropos to absolutely nothing, but I was reading an NTSB report from an accident in '88. The First Officer had been hired 9 years previously, and had spent 8+ years as a flight engineer. Have a friend whose father spent something like 18 years in the FE and FO seats before upgrading to Captain on the 737-200. I don't know why I bring this up, other than perhaps to offer a different perspective.
 
Were they at established companies or the regionals though? I would gladly have sat side saddle at any number of companies through the 80s/early 90s to get my number. However I was born in 1987 right around the time that American companies decided they owe their workers absolutely nothing. ;) What you are talking about, even though it wasn't that long ago, was a very different time for how one would progress in their career. I'm not saying it was better or worse, just different. Those guys played the hands that were dealt to them as best they could, and my generation is playing ours as best we can, and that generally doesn't mean sticking around a place with an 8 year upgrade when everyone else is hiring.

Hell, two of the best Herk pilots I know started off as crew chiefs, then Herk FEs, then got UPT slots and are both IPs on the Herk now.
 
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STS-41B said:
if DEN closes do you think IAH will become more junior or senior?
Also, why is DEN closing? Because of TSA taking over there?
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DEN is closing for XJT. DEN was very senior. I expect most people to go to ORD or IAH.

DEN closed because of a lack of productivity. 117 rest rules killed it for us since most flying goes east and barely any goes west. TSA will also have the same issues in their new DEN base unless they stay in the mountain time zone. Expanding west is not easy with 117.
 
Maurus said:
DEN is closing for XJT. DEN was very senior. I expect most people to go to ORD or IAH.

DEN closed because of a lack of productivity. 117 rest rules killed it for us since most flying goes east and barely any goes west. TSA will also have the same issues in their new DEN base unless they stay in the mountain time zone. Expanding west is not easy with 117.
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What about XJT MCI? It wasn't mentioned in the memo
 
Phil Schuyler said:
Apropos to absolutely nothing, but I was reading an NTSB report from an accident in '88. The First Officer had been hired 9 years previously, and had spent 8+ years as a flight engineer. Have a friend whose father spent something like 18 years in the FE and FO seats before upgrading to Captain on the 737-200. I don't know why I bring this up, other than perhaps to offer a different perspective.
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Sitting right seat at a regional and at mainline are two, entirely different animals in many respects. Most notably pay and quality of life. Generally speaking at a regional, especially now, you're best bet is to make yourself as competitive as possible as quickly as possible and with any luck, GTFO ASAP.

Or so I'm told. I'm hoping to have the chance to see for myself one of these days.
 
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Then why is the first question people ask about any major, "how long is the upgrade!?"
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