Delta Upgrade Time Vol. II

[Trip7]

Or get ready for a lot of typing! Ha!

320 183/113/-43 whew!

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Ohhh I forgot about that! Putting winds in the Pegasus is very tedious on long legs. I'll personally head to the 4th floor and beg for auto upload.

BTW I took a look at the Airbus checklist and am extremely jealous of all that open white space. The Preflight and After Take off Checklist is an eye watering difference compared to Dos Ocho

 

[Autothrust Blue]

i get all you Californians confused.

But seriously, you should have one generic CRJ category. Come to the dark side. We have cookies.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Ohhh I forgot about that! Putting winds in the Pegasus is very tedious on long legs. I'll personally head to the 4th floor and beg for auto upload.

BTW I took a look at the Airbus checklist and am extremely jealous of all that open white space. The Preflight and After Take off Checklist is an eye watering difference compared to Dos Ocho

My reaction when I rode up front on the 'bus for the first time was "uh, that's all? Aren't you guys missing a half dozen 'set' or 'checked?'"

 

[Trip7]

But seriously, you should have one generic CRJ category. Come to the dark side. We have cookies.

+1. I always believed separating the 200 and 7/9 was unnecessary.

 

[derg]

Ohhh I forgot about that! Putting winds in the Pegasus is very tedious on long legs. I'll personally head to the 4th floor and beg for auto upload.

BTW I took a look at the Airbus checklist and am extremely jealous of all that open white space. The Preflight and After Take off Checklist is an eye watering difference compared to Dos Ocho

Yes.

It's a gentleman's jet. The hardest thing to do when I came to the Airbus product is… nothing. Shaking that paranoia of "Crap! I think I'm missing something!" takes about a year when you transition into it.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

But seriously, you should have one generic CRJ category. Come to the dark side. We have cookies.

Why?

To the category.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

+1. I always believed separating the 200 and 7/9 was unnecessary.

Probably, but it's better for the pilot group.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Yes.

It's a gentleman's jet. The hardest thing to do when I came to the Airbus product is… nothing. Shaking that paranoia of "Crap! I think I'm missing something!" takes about a year when you transition into it.

Ditto the E-Jet, although you have to watch Brazilian FiFi like a hawk.

 

[amorris311]

Ditto the E-Jet, although you have to watch Brazilian FiFi like a hawk.

You do? What do you guys do to that airplane?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You do? What do you guys do to that airplane?

I find it will hardly ever cross a fix at a specified speed, but it could just be my inner conservative nature going "I said 280 at FFIXX. and I mean it."

If you prefer, I can check my brain at 1L instead...

 

[B767]

I find it will hardly ever cross a fix at a specified speed, but it could just be my inner conservative nature going "I said 280 at FFIXX. and I mean it."

If you prefer, I can check my brain at 1L instead...

Easy fix. "Puddle jumper 123, say speed."

"280"

"Well reduce to 250. You're 280 is 30 knots faster than the guy you're following."

"Must be the winds. Slowing to 250."

 

[SpiceWeasel]

You do? What do you guys do to that airplane?

I find it will hardly ever cross a fix at a specified speed, but it could just be my inner conservative nature going "I said 280 at FFIXX. and I mean it."

If you prefer, I can check my brain at 1L instead...

I end up throwing an x mile prior fix to most of the "cross (FIX) at (ALT) and (SPD) knots" instructions from controllers or RNAV STARs to get the airplane to do what I really want it to do.

Oh, it'll make the altitude, even if it has to overspeed you...

The other other options are vertical direct-to or descend now with a manual speed adjustment or everyone's favorite, modifying the descent angle in the initialization page.

Do you guys allow FMS speeds below 10,000?

 

[surreal1221]

Probably, but it's better for the pilot group.

sigh...

I don't have the energy to fight this one.

Some of us like our relative seniority and having it protected by individual crew classes.

 

[amorris311]

I find it will hardly ever cross a fix at a specified speed, but it could just be my inner conservative nature going "I said 280 at FFIXX. and I mean it."

If you prefer, I can check my brain at 1L instead...

No I understand your frustration. I know your company is new to this plane and with it comes a large and daily learning curve. That being said, do you ever look at the the prog page 2? I believe in the upper right hand corner it shows the projected VS rate for the decent. I've noticed anything over 2300-2500 fpm the plane has a hard time going down and slowing down. So I go back to the PERF page, on page 3(?) where you program the speeds, I'll either shallow out or steepen the decent angle so the plane doesn't overspeed a fix.

Now after writing that I agree that you have to watch the thing.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

You guys are funny getting all scared about missing a speed restriction by a mile or two. You do realize that we used to be lucky to even be within a couple of miles of the center of an airway, right? Try flying a Hondo B model with an HSI that swings like a grandfather clock pendulum.

 

[mikecweb]

You guys are funny getting all scared about missing a speed restriction by a mile or two. You do realize that we used to be lucky to even be within a couple of miles of the center of an airway, right? Try flying a Hondo B model with an HSI that swings like a grandfather clock pendulum.

Damn for all that money you spent you think they'd give you a working one.

Shots!?

 

[ASpilot2be]

Sounds complicated. At my 3:1 point I nose it over and check my altitude and distance every thousand feet. Works every time.

 

[ClarkGriswold]

No I understand your frustration. I know your company is new to this plane and with it comes a large and daily learning curve. That being said, do you ever look at the the prog page 2? I believe in the upper right hand corner it shows the projected VS rate for the decent. I've noticed anything over 2300-2500 fpm the plane has a hard time going down and slowing down. So I go back to the PERF page, on page 3(?) where you program the speeds, I'll either shallow out or steepen the decent angle so the plane doesn't overspeed a fix.

Now after writing that I agree that you have to watch the thing.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa easy on changing stuff.

 

[amorris311]

I only learned about that about a week ago.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

No I understand your frustration. I know your company is new to this plane and with it comes a large and daily learning curve. That being said, do you ever look at the the prog page 2? I believe in the upper right hand corner it shows the projected VS rate for the decent. I've noticed anything over 2300-2500 fpm the plane has a hard time going down and slowing down. So I go back to the PERF page, on page 3(?) where you program the speeds, I'll either shallow out or steepen the decent angle so the plane doesn't overspeed a fix.

Now after writing that I agree that you have to watch the thing.

Yeah, it flat out will not do it better than about what you've said. I'll mess with it on my way into Minneapolis on Saturday to annoy @ClarkGriswold and his coworkers.

I also like using the performance data to determine what the estimated crossing altitude for each fix is too, if it's on the high side I know there'll be a deceleration problem. Figuring out tricks is fun, for sure.

You guys are funny getting all scared about missing a speed restriction by a mile or two. You do realize that we used to be lucky to even be within a couple of miles of the center of an airway, right? Try flying a Hondo B model with an HSI that swings like a grandfather clock pendulum.

I will not abide sloppy flying. That may be how they do it at Southwest (ducks!), but it is not how I do it, especially considering the fanatically accurate navigation precision I have.