Delta Upgrade Time Vol. II

[mikecweb]

"Just chillin'… On the arrival makin' all my restrictions while your boy is up there screaming "Thanks OBAMA" as he's 15 knots above his constraint speed and thousands of feet high"

I never had to use speedbrakes when Bush was President.

 

[derg]

I never had to use speedbrakes when Bush was President.

I got away speedbrake free right up until the Clinton Administration.

Maybe it's liberal conspiracy?

I'm going to go check NewsMax.

 

[mikecweb]

I got away speedbrake free right up until the Clinton Administration.

Maybe it's liberal conspiracy?

I'm going to go check NewsMax.

How about when Reagan was in office?
:mic drop:

 

[Screaming_Emu]

The government pays for my speed brakes.

 

[MikeD]

I use boards often.

I thought, with modern aircraft, the notion of using speedbrakes means that you screwed something up was over.

With a jet with no boards, and no drag devices at all for that matter.....no flaps or anything...... you had to plan descents accordingly, as well as rejoins. For those who used SBs as a crutch (not screwing something up, but rather in place of actually planning a descent when one could be planned......of course there are times when they are needed in order to make descent/speed restriction combos), life would get very difficult, very fast in many situations.....either effing up airwork, or pissing off ATC. Neither of which has good outcomes.

 

[SmoothLanderJ]

I use boards often.

I thought, with modern aircraft, the notion of using speedbrakes means that you screwed something up was over.

Hell, I will deploy the speedbrakes with one hand and be on the phone with all the detractors mothers with the other saying, "Hey, what's up girl?"

Our winds in cruise and decent are automatically uploaded in our FMS (im sure yours is too). Going into the decent phase we are as set up as we can be and we've still needed the speed brakes at times especially because the company policy is to not use the flaps to descend until you're in the pattern and slow.

 

[derg]

Our winds in cruise and decent are automatically uploaded in our FMS (im sure yours is too). Going into the decent phase we are as set up as we can be and we've still needed the speed brakes at times especially because the company policy is to not use the flaps to descend until you're in the pattern and slow.g

The drumbeat that we have is "flaps are high lift devices and not necessarily drag".

Do you get FMS-uplinked wind updates in cruise?

 

[Seggy]

Do you get FMS-uplinked wind updates in cruise?

We do.

737s are awesomesauce!

 

[derg]

We do.

737s are awesomesauce!

Don't tell me you say "morning win" now too!

 

[Kingairer]

So do we.

 

[SmoothLanderJ]

The drumbeat that we have is "flaps are high lift devices and not necessarily drag".

Do you get FMS-uplinked wind updates in cruise?

Most certainly do....and that's the same thought process here.

 

[derg]

Most certainly do....and that's the same thought process here.

So it shall be a smooth transition

 

[Polar742]

We do.

737s are awesomesauce!

Even my second tier company has uplinked winds.

I've heard other manufacturers have stolen this technology though...

 

[Seggy]

MD-88s don't appear to have uplinked winds.

 

[Jimflyfast]

Even my second tier company....

did you get a new job and move up to a second tier company?

 

[Polar742]

did you get a new job and move up to a second tier company?

Commie.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You guys know the boards work pretty well too, right? And there's a manual speed mode, so you can start the deceleration on your own in manual speed mode, and then pull the boards to keep the descent angle the same while decelerating?

Or wait, do I only use boards because I'm a terrible regional pilot?

Below 10,000' especially, I'm usually descending in flight level change and manual speeds. We're still figuring out how to airplane in this airplane, but the bottom line is that it is still an airplane: pitch is for speed.

"Slow to 210" -click, spin-

 

[ClarkGriswold]

Below 10,000' especially, I'm usually descending in flight level change and manual speeds. We're still figuring out how to airplane in this airplane, but the bottom line is that it is still an airplane: pitch is for speed.

Please don't be the guy who is in FLCH who needs to get down then dials the speed back in FLCH when told to slow also.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Please don't be the guy who is in FLCH who needs to get down then dials the speed back when told to slow also.

Nope.

You can have one or the other but you do not get to have both.

There's this nifty red button on the yoke that makes it an airplane again, too. Shocker!

 

[ClarkGriswold]

Nope.

You can have one or the other but you do not get to have both.

There's this nifty red button on the yoke that makes it an airplane again, too. Shocker!

Just wait, you'll see people do that all the time. i'm pretty sure quite a few people do not get how it works. Especially when getting slam dunked but told to slow.