Delta/Endeavor SSP Extended to All Pilots

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This afternoon the 9E MEC sent out an e-mail with highlights of a Tentative Agreement to modify the Endeavor to Delta Bridge Agreement to ALL 9E pilots.

Some highlights include...

- Single day interview process
- 32 CAs/32 FOs interviewed every month
- 144 pilots to go to Delta in 2015, increase to 180 in 2016
- Pilots offered a second interview may do so after 6 months (originally 12)
- FOs with CJOs will not move to Delta as long as there are CAs with CJOs waiting for class

In addition to the above program the company is offering the retention bonus of $30,000 over 2 years, pro-rated for new hires, with staggered pay out dates.

ALPA expects all pilots currently on list will have opportunity to interview within 18-24 months.
 
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In addition to the above program the company is offering the retention bonus of $30,000 over 2 years, pro-rated for new hires, with staggered pay out dates.

ALPA expects all pilots currently on list will have opportunity to interview within 18-24 months.
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Stop loss program in full effect. This is looking more like a shutdown in "18-24 months."
 
SpiceWeasel said:
What Compass guaranteed Delta interview?
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The Compass guaranteed Delta interview.

Guaranteed interview program with Delta:
-Must be recommended by management
-Must meet all current Delta pilot hiring requirements
-Minimum 3 years of service for Compass
-Will only be considered after most junior flow pilot has been offered an opportunity to flow
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Stop loss program in full effect. This is looking more like a shutdown in "18-24 months."
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Stop loss program in full effect. This is looking more like a shutdown in "18-24 months."
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Nothing seems to be a positve thing for you.

Hey, you won $10M! You would complain about the taxes.

Give it a rest. You are happy at VX. Good for you. Half of your ex-coworkers now have a shot at a major, and it's doom and gloom in your eyes.

Enjoy your wife, kiddo, and job. That seems to be your admirable progative, yet you seem to hate everything involving 9E, especially the potential "good".

Move on. I fail to see your point of negativity.
 
SpiceWeasel said:
I'd like to think it is finally a bit of good news for a great pilot group. Glad Colgan, Mesaba, and Pinnacle folks have a shot at the big time.
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I would get up on my soapbox about flow-through agreements/streamlined selection, but nobody cares.

The "opportunity" to go to the "big time", as you very well know, is pretty much always there; it's merely the order in which things happen that has been slightly altered.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I would get up on my soapbox about flow-through agreements/streamlined selection, but nobody cares.

The "opportunity" to go to the "big time", as you very well know, is pretty much always there; it's merely the order in which things happen that has been slightly altered.
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I care.

Get up on that soapbox, son.
 
Derg said:
I care.

Get up on that soapbox, son.
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Okay, well, almost nobody cares. So here it is.

Here's my favorite integration strategy when it comes to regional airlines and mainline carriers:
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In the interest of background, I had a "guaranteed" job at 'merican once. Guaranteed is in quotes, because I didn't have a seniority number at American Airlines, merely an Eagle number and the 'opportunity' to, someday, in seniority order, move over there. I gave it up. I figured I could have less gray hair and still have a better job, than waiting for the 3,100 pilots on the list ahead of me to do their thing and flow. I additionally believe that no amount of future possible jobs at what may be an entirely different company is worth bargaining away existing pay and protections for, unless you're just going to take my airline's list and staple it to the bottom of another airline's list. That's the sort of 'streamlined selection' and flow I can get behind.

Assume myself and Person X are on the same seniority list at (choose your Eagle or DCI carrier here). Person X's DOH being chronologically earlier than mine is perhaps the dumbest reason for Person X to be given an opportunity to work for Airline Y before I do, in what is a nominally meritocratic selection process. If their experience, resume, education, records are better then sure. If the only thing that differentiates me from Person X their DOH then I'm not sure what, exactly, the point was of even having the second carrier at all.

Now let's further assume that you are are a negotiator, on behalf of (choose union here) and you are offered an SSP or flow agreement or (whatever item) in exchange for the evisceration of already mediocre pay rates, work rules, and quality of life. I personally would prefer to have my money now, and make my own road, rather than wait for a job that is not necessarily fait accompli. When the music stops, as so surely it will someday, I would prefer to have a solid job to rely upon until the numbers are in a better mood, rather than having bargained away things that I might need for purposes of keeping a roof over my head.

In short: Flow agreements and streamlined selection rub me the wrong way, because in my opinion, the trade that is made for them further devalue an already undervalued job.
 
Great news finally for the lower half of the Endeavor list. Its been a long couple of years with the pay caps, LOA 50, EtD, ect.

This is good for Delta too. Guys that are given a CJO will most likely stick around longer and not bail for he likes of PSA, TSA, ect. Endeavor is slowly starting to turn into a good place to work again. Highest FO pay in the industry for the next 2 years and movement.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
"Thanks for the cheap feed, y'all!"

Delta's probably run by the smartest guys in the whole industry.
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Yup. Someone over there ought'a be professional and call those American fools, they are taking 98 percent of those rj feed pilots.

Asleep at the wheel I tell ya.
 
jynxyjoe said:
Yup. Someone over there ought'a be professional and call those American fools, they are taking 98 percent of those rj feed pilots.

Asleep at the wheel I tell ya.
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American largely does whatever Delta does with about a 2-year delay. (Shhhh. Don't clue them in!)

2012, in ATL: "Wifi equipped large cabin RJs!"
2014, in DFW/PHX: "Wifi equipped large cabin RJs! And double breasted coats coming soon too."
 
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