Excellent news concerning Drones

Wait. How does it work where the NTSB can reverse a judge's ruling? It seems a little contrary to the idea of being able to "have your day in court."
 
I was out near KHAF the other day and some guy was taking pics of a hotel in the harbor, I "Politely" asked him if he had any idea how close he was to an airport or how high up he was flying. He had no idea. At one point he was way up and could have easily caused problems for someone on approach into 30. I think the cheap hobby drones should be electronically limited to something like 300 or 400 feet. Will people retool them to make them go higher...yep, but at least then we have some action that can be taken. Right now most people have no idea how high they are and its gonna be an issue here very soon.
 
DV8Pilot said:
Whats the difference between a "drone" and an R/C airplane? Intent of operations? Weight? Honest question. I wonder if some of the scale models would be heavy enough to be a drone?
This thing scares me more than a quad-copter with a Go-Pro:

... think of how much ANFO that thing could carry.
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Those were some seriously odd pants.
 
NewYorkophile said:
400agl sounds nice, but not so nice to those of us who have more flight time below 400A than above it. What about IR/VR routes? MOAs? Hell, we can fly the entire state of Wyoming at 300agl.

I want transponders and a beacon.
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Not gonna happen.
 
Chino may be the only airport in the US with this type of Drone Control.

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Sol Rosenburg said:
You can fly your toy around all day long at 400agl and below its the commercial ops that they are limiting. If they require a commercial to do anything to get paid in aviation and shut down the ride share stuff too then screw it make everyone have a csel to operate a drone for hire. They are going to take yer jobs in many areas with theses things to the point where getting that 1500 for the atp will just be about impossible. We have people get into shootouts over a dog in the yard. If Bezos thinks flying a drone across the neighbor's airspace won't piss off a lot of landowners he hasn't been to Texas yet.
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I agree, Pipeline patrol, traffic watch, aerial imaging, etc.. It's all about to die. So sad..
 
NewYorkophile said:
400agl sounds nice, but not so nice to those of us who have more flight time below 400A than above it. What about IR/VR routes? MOAs? Hell, we can fly the entire state of Wyoming at 300agl.

I want transponders and a beacon.
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You have an infinitely higher probability of hitting one of the billions of birds on this planet than you do of hitting an RC aircraft, especially when flying below 400'.


#lostperspective
 
Dallen said:
I was out near KHAF the other day and some guy was taking pics of a hotel in the harbor, I "Politely" asked him if he had any idea how close he was to an airport or how high up he was flying. He had no idea. At one point he was way up and could have easily caused problems for someone on approach into 30. I think the cheap hobby drones should be electronically limited to something like 300 or 400 feet. Will people retool them to make them go higher...yep, but at least then we have some action that can be taken. Right now most people have no idea how high they are and its gonna be an issue here very soon.
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The newer software already does on one of the more popular models. It limits altitude and also includes a GPS database of known areas like airports to keep folks out of trouble.
 
I might have missed it, but in all this talk of requiring a license, has there been a mention of requiring a medical? Also, the question was asked earlier and appears to still be unanswered. Where's the line between an RC and a drone? Is the balsa wood Cessna I made 30 years ago now an evil drone?
 
adk said:
The most contentious point is that the FAA will most likely require flight time in a traditional manned aircraft in order to be certificated to fly a UAS (drone).
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Thinking that you should operate these machines without real flight experience is naive.
 
mrivc211 said:
Thinking that you should operate these machines without real flight experience is naive.
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I fully understand that several types of UAV (especially fixed wing) are highly complex and require large amounts of training to fly safely and successfully. But the more popular quadcopter types are often much simpler to operate. Take a look below at the DJI Phantom - you literally draw a course on your iPhone with your finger and the machine uses GPS and autopilot to fly the course for you. I fully agree that many of these UAV startups are naïve, but these machines, even those under 55 pounds, are too diverse for one blanket set of regulations.

 
mrivc211 said:
Thinking that you should operate these machines without real flight experience is naive.
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I wholeheartedly disagree. How would flight experience help or enhance a person flying a quadcopter for a real estate shoot for a real estate ad?
It is pretty simple for a person to fly one of these things in a safe, legal manner. Know where airports are, know where people or structures are, have a spotter, yada yada. Flight experience means nada other than perhaps a knowledge of FAR's. If you stay away from any airspace/airports, keep it lower than any full scale has a right to be, away from people, and it's all good.
 
NewYorkophile said:
And you clearly have no idea just how many birds we DO hit, and how many millions it costs the taxpayers each year. I can't imagine the damage a 50+ lb "bird" would do.

#noperspective :p
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It would be a rare "drone" that weighs more than say 5 lbs. Most weigh anywhere from 1 to 5.
That's not to say that hitting one is not an issue. But there are not any 50 lb "drones" out there flying beyond line of sight of the operator.

Some folks are into giant scale RC, but they are completely line of sight pilots.
 
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