PhilosopherPilot
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That's my concern as well.
My second thought was, "Huh, I guess those flight attendants don't understand what the O2 masks are for."
That's my concern as well.
Granted, I don't fly an airbus, but every other plane I've flown, the FAs have no control to drop the masks from the cabin, unless they open each compartment individually.Apparently the FAs dropped the masks... Nothing like adding a few O2 generators to a cabin fire to get things poppin'!
Apparently the FAs dropped the masks... Nothing like adding a few O2 generators to a cabin fire to get things poppin'!
Rathbone and his family went home to celebrate their living through Thursday's scare
with a wine and champagne tasting, he said on whosay -- they opened half a dozen bottles.
I fly with plenty of captains out here who brief, "if we lose an engine after V1 we'll yada yada yada, come back around, land, go get another airplane and try again." They are all ex military. Take that however you want. I don't bother correcting them during the brief, but you can be sure as hell that I'm not going back up again after something like that. Fortunately, when I did have an engine go a few months ago the captain had no plans of continuing on afterwards so it wasn't an issue, although the company did tell us they had another plane for us to take while we were taxiing in.
On the topic of calling it a day after an unusual event.
I declared an emergency last year on arrival into MSP after a circuit board with a bunch of stuff went on strike at FL180. Partial brakes, partial spoilers, no nosewheel steering, throttles & A/P gone, one MCDU out, etc. The big one was partial brakes and nosewheel steering...had to stop on the runway. Ended up sitting on 12R for 45 minutes waiting for a tug, right in the middle of the 9PM outbound rush. A 757-300, two A330s, and a 767 all waiting at the end to use the longest runway due to their weight. And there we are, just waitin' for a tug, windows open shooting the __ with our MX guys, who are down there in the dark standing by the centerline. Bizarre sitting on an active runway that long when it so badly needed to be used.
Anyway, scheduling did the right thing and actually asked us before we needed to bring it up, if we wanted to call it a day and overnight in MSP instead of continuing on to Edmonton. We chose to do that, cabin crew included, and they said they'd conjure up another crew.
After we finally got towed in, of course as it goes the Edmonton gate was directly across from where we'd arrived. Funny to walk past and hear them making an announcement about how the inbound crew was late and everyone was moaning but generally cool with everything (because they're from Edmonton). We just chuckled and walked on by and said what can ya do.
This post has no particular theme, so I'll simply end it with a.
Granted, I don't fly an airbus, but every other plane I've flown, the FAs have no control to drop the masks from the cabin, unless they open each compartment individually.
To be fair, a cabin fire would have to be pretty seriously involved to have the low-flow O2 from the masks provide any noticable accelerant to the fire. In the enclosed tube, pax would be dead from toxic smoke/gases of a serious fire like that before the O2 made its contribution.
Post #7 in this thread explains more:
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/cfr-arff.205728/
Granted, I don't fly an airbus, but every other plane I've flown, the FAs have no control to drop the masks from the cabin, unless they open each compartment individually.
Well that's a good thing then.
Morbidly true. Because like I described in that CFR thread link, chances of survival with a working cabin fire for someone who isn't very near an exit in the fire area, is low. And it's not much better for those who are away from the fire area due to the rapid spread of fire in the contained cabin, as well as rapid development of smoke and toxic gases. Rescue is very difficult, if not impossible, for those who don't self-exit.
Saudia.Morbidly true. Because like I described in that CFR thread link, chances of survival with a working cabin fire for someone who isn't very near an exit in the fire area, is low. And it's not much better for those who are away from the fire area due to the rapid spread of fire in the contained cabin, as well as rapid development of smoke and toxic gases. Rescue is very difficult, if not impossible, for those who don't self-exit.
Ick. I'm sure any union rep could walk into a meeting, probably even high on pills and clear that up with catlike quickness.
The feds would kick you squaw in the pee pee if you as much as blew a tire after choosing to continue.
Saudia.