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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N367HP/history/20140714/1130Z/PHKO/KSEE
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N367HP/history/20140714/1130Z/PHKO/KSEE
The kid deserves a lot of credit. Flying around the world is one thing but sitting in a Bo cockpit for 16.5 with nothing to look at but ocean would kill me.I didn't see anyone say "nay". I will, however, repeat "meh".
...sitting in a Bo cockpit for 16.5 with nothing to look at but ocean would kill me.
Sorry, dude, you lost me at "faith in Continental."Don't get me wrong... on a personal level I think it's pretty awesome. If I was having a conversation with him and he mentioned he was doing it, I'd think it was pretty cool. But, to quote Applejack, he's tooting his own horn louder than the brass section of a marching band, and making it sound like it's a "feat" of some sort. It's not. It's a bit of a logistics exercise, and a lot of faith in Continental. But I exercise my faith in Continental just as much every day flying single-engine wheelplanes over unlandable terrain and 38° water*.
-Fox
* - I don't actually have that much faith. Let's just call it "hope".
Just found this, but I'm glad you guys enjoyed following along a couple years ago.
And I agree, at the end of the day, all the planning and logistics is just a lot of work. The parts that take a little skill are finding sponsors, navigating weather in the middle of the ocean while managing 2 hour deviations on an already 10 hour flight while also trying to get a relay through somebody up higher to tell ATC what you're doing after you've tried 3 HF frequencies a dozen times. And flying a Bonanza at 4600 pounds to have 300 gallons of fuel for a 2500nm flight is pretty interesting too![]()
Just found this, but I'm glad you guys enjoyed following along a couple years ago.
And I agree, at the end of the day, all the planning and logistics is just a lot of work. The parts that take a little skill are finding sponsors, navigating weather in the middle of the ocean while managing 2 hour deviations on an already 10 hour flight while also trying to get a relay through somebody up higher to tell ATC what you're doing after you've tried 3 HF frequencies a dozen times. And flying a Bonanza at 4600 pounds to have 300 gallons of fuel for a 2500nm flight is pretty interesting too![]()
All in all it was pretty incredible. I got to see so many crazy things (like this https://www.facebook.com/LimitlessH...0407734241/609708955818385/?type=3&permPage=1) and meet so many incredibly friendly, helpful people everywhere. And the people really made the trip -- almost everywhere I went there were pilots who met up with me to take me out for dinner or show me around their city, or a friendly hotel manager who had seen me on TV and comped me a room and took me out to lunch with his family, or a taxi driver who before picking me up from the hotel got me a free breakfast (well for me it was breakfast since I was about to fly 16 hours, but really it was 10pm) from a local pub where the manager was a pilot, and on and on.Very cool! It does seem like the attention side of it all would be a little exhausting. There are critics everywhere! Can you tell us more about your experience after accomplishing that? Was a positive experience, or were there negative sides to it?
I don't have enough faith in Continental to take one airborne, let alone over water. For this, I can't believe he didn't need to replace jugs mid flight.Don't get me wrong... on a personal level I think it's pretty awesome. If I was having a conversation with him and he mentioned he was doing it, I'd think it was pretty cool. But, to quote Applejack, he's tooting his own horn louder than the brass section of a marching band, and making it sound like it's a "feat" of some sort. It's not. It's a bit of a logistics exercise, and a lot of faith in Continental. But I exercise my faith in Continental just as much every day flying single-engine wheelplanes over unlandable terrain and 38° water*.
-Fox
* - I don't actually have that much faith. Let's just call it "hope".
... mission mentality where you're constantly thinking about every little detail that needs to be in place for the next leg ... I was averaging 4 hours of sleep and flying 12 of the 20 hours I was awake back to back for 2 or 3 days ... got about 3 hours of sleep to get up at 4am ... Overall though it was just incredibly thrilling and so surreal to end up in some of these places ... 26% overgross at the aft CG limit (the tail sat on the ground without a bucket or someone holding it up) ... 4,000ft ground roll ... another 4,000ft to clear a 50' obstacle...taking off before sunrise and flying non-stop...until after sunset...couldn't get anyone on the HF, couldn't get a VHF relay...
All in all it was pretty incredible. I got to see so many crazy things (like this https://www.facebook.com/LimitlessH...0407734241/609708955818385/?type=3&permPage=1) and meet so many incredibly friendly, helpful people everywhere. And the people really made the trip -- almost everywhere I went there were pilots who met up with me to take me out for dinner or show me around their city, or a friendly hotel manager who had seen me on TV and comped me a room and took me out to lunch with his family, or a taxi driver who before picking me up from the hotel got me a free breakfast (well for me it was breakfast since I was about to fly 16 hours, but really it was 10pm) from a local pub where the manager was a pilot, and on and on.
And it was actually really incredible to get to share the whole experience with so many people all over the world while it was happening, but at the same time you already get so bogged down in a mission mentality where you're constantly thinking about every little detail that needs to be in place for the next leg and what you'll have to worry about after that, that having to add more details for things like media interviews and whatnot really got exhausting. And between so many people wanting to know what would happen next and also having a little bit of a time crunch to set the record and beat it by as much as possible, there was just never time to stop, catch my breath, and take a break. There were times where I was averaging 4 hours of sleep and flying 12 of the 20 hours I was awake back to back for 2 or 3 days -- there was one point where I got about 6 hours of sleep, flew 11 hours to Manila, got about 6 hours of sleep, was paraded around town literally the entire day by a group of local aviation companies, got about 3 hours of sleep to get up at 4am to avoid afternoon thunderstorms, finally got off about 10am after they sorted out some small paperwork issue (without consulting me -- I still have no idea what the problem was), flew 12+ hours to Darwin, got a few hours of sleep, woke up to do the Today Show, tried to get another hour or two of sleep, then flew 10 hours to Brisbane. Even just things like slow Internet connections in most places made stuff like flight planning take forever. At the beginning my instinct was to just push back the flight to the next day if delays ran too long or I couldn't get enough sleep, but it ended up that so many issues were out of my control, that all canceling the flight would do was push back the same problem another day; there just weren't enough hours in the day to accomplish everything I needed.
Overall though it was just incredibly thrilling and so surreal to end up in some of these places and sit back for a moment to realize I had gotten there in this little Bonanza entirely by myself (of course there were scores of people all over the world without whom I couldn't have done any of it, but being there by yourself like that is pretty crazy). And challenges like figuring out how to fly a Bonanza 26% overgross at the aft CG limit (the tail sat on the ground without a bucket or someone holding it up) were really exciting too (hint: it involves almost a 4,000ft ground roll and probably about another 4,000ft to clear a 50' obstacle -- this was the view right off the end of the runway: https://www.facebook.com/LimitlessH...0407734241/554419958013952/?type=3&permPage=1).
And taking off before sunrise and flying non-stop over the middle of an ocean until after sunset is pretty cool too. It's just so peaceful out there alone, thousands of miles away from almost anything else. One of my favorite parts of the whole thing was about 3 hours over the Indian Ocean at night when I couldn't get anyone on the HF, couldn't get a VHF relay, and for a while couldn't even get the Iridium phone to work; I finally just gave up, sat back, and marveled at how quiet it was.
I'd do it all again in a heartbeat.
It sounds like a fine adventure, and I would love to participate in something like it. But at the end of the day, all we're really talking about is an epic road trip.
Whenever I see one of these things, my first question is "Why?". It's not like barriers are being broken, or boundaries pushed back. Someone piloted a long-proven aircraft design around the world using state of the art navigation and communication technology, and that person happened to be a teenager. Not exactly Charles Lindbergh.
Neil Armstrong started at Purdue at 17, gets called up to military service 2 years later, and becomes a naval aviator just after his 20 birthday. He flies 78 combat missions. After the war he returns to Purdue, graduates with a degree in Aeronautical Engineering, and goes to work as a experimental test pilot...all before the age of 25. And this was in the 1950's. Talk about impressive.
Tough room. Sometimes I feel it's a significant accomplishment to just hit the toilet bowl on a dark midnight run.
Everybody's gotta' start SOMEwhere, no? At more than three times his age, I've never circumnavigated the globe in anything.
"Kudos, kid, at the personal level," say I.