PA44 (Possibly from ATP) Down in GA

[pressclick]

Out of Concord, NC. Just happened to catch this on the local news a moment ago. Don't think it is a repost.

http://m.charlotteobserver.com/?cu=spreed:/16408957/30226266

Came down around a lot of water. Apparently the occupants are missing.

Seems like a fairly accurate description of what a problem followed by a stall would look like to a non-pilot.

 

[crfguy51]

Hearing it was two ATP students on a "crew cross country" flight.

 

[chrisreedrules]

Yea... A lot of CRG locals knew them. The Chief over at the ATP here was pretty tore up about it apparently. RIP

 

[Krieger]

Sad and RIP.

 

[Italianaviator]

I can't find any information on that link. Any other sources for this?

 

[SteveC]

I can't find any information on that link. Any other sources for this?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...e-that-left-concord-crashes.html#.UzLv-oX-s30

 

[Box hauler]

Probably two young kids excited to get their ratings, sucks.

 

[ComplexHiAv8r]

Sad. RIP

 

[H46Bubba]

Update: They have found the wreckage and bodies of the pilots in a marsh off Brunswick, GA.
(Video is older than the associated story)
Small plane, bodies found in Brunswick marsh

 

[BobDDuck]

That sucks. I've always been surprised that ATP has been as accident free as they have been all these years. They run a huge operation with a lot of very, very new pilots and this only the third (I think?) fatal they had.

 

[EIR]

Blue skies and tail winds.

 

[ASpilot2be]

RIP

 

[subpilot]

That sucks. I've always been surprised that ATP has been as accident free as they have been all these years. They run a huge operation with a lot of very, very new pilots and this only the third (I think?) fatal they had.

Still 3 too many.

 

[HVYMETALDRVR]

That sucks. I've always been surprised that ATP has been as accident free as they have been all these years. They run a huge operation with a lot of very, very new pilots and this only the third (I think?) fatal they had.

One of the other ones, was I think? in 03, Seminole pretty much fell out of the sky over the Carolina's, best they guessed it was put into a stall spin situation, fatal. Aircraft went straight down and hit flat. One of the DPE's was an ex Army accident investigator and was asked to help out. He gave us (instructors) as very gruesome discription of the bodies. This one looks eerily similar. RIP.

 

[WestIndian425]

Very unfortunate to hear.

 

[statusseeker1]

I really hate this. Seeing GA (especially flight training) accidents is so frustrating because it is so difficult to determine probable cause. What do ATP students usually do on these long XC's? Are they told to practice maneuvers?

 

[Karnage]

What do ATP students usually do on these long XC's? Are they told to practice maneuvers?

Try not to fall asleep or kill the guy you are flying with mostly. No maneuvers, at least when I did the program two years ago. It's mostly just flying IFR flights building time for commercial requirements and occasionally shifting planes between schools for maintenance.

 

[juxtapilot]

That's a bummer. I feel for their families.. RIP

 

[Sidious]

Very sad... Feel for the families involved. RIP

 

[Seggy]

RIP