Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

gliderboy said:
The German magazine Stern (online edition) is reporting that on a previous flight with same co-pilot (and maybe pilot) two attractive young ladies were invited into the cockpit by the flight crew. The girls said they spent most of the flight on the flight deck, including take off and landing, and they showed a variety of photos of themselves in the cockpit, wearing the pilots' hats, and otherwise enjoying themselves..........
http://www.stern.de/panorama/vermis...beobachtet-feuerball-vor-vietnam-2095979.html

The passage regarding the girls and co-pilot is at the end of the article.
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Two questions:
  1. Where are pictures of the girls?
  2. Something is wrong with inviting two attractive young ladies?
 
Nick said:
This entire thing could be about to get way more bizarre:

WSJ

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U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking probe.

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But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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To the guys who implied that I was some kind of nut job for simply ASKING if this was possible, and to those that then clicked "Like," ... Never mind. I'll be a grown up.
 
Like I said, we'll never know. Becoming more apparent by the minute.

Disappeared. Like a fart in the wind.
 
I thought it has been said multiple times that the satcom antenna that the AD addresses was not installed on this 777?
 
NiallG said:
I'm still with the idea that the aircraft was instructed to turn onto a heading of 58 degrees by the auto pilot (as expected by the airway, and as performed by the preceding aircraft) and after that it continued to fly that heading until it ran out of fuel (or something else brought the plane down) because the crew were incapacitated and could not program then auto pilot to perform the next left turn on the airway (as expected and performed by the preceding aircraft) and that ADS-B data (and maybe more) transmission ability lost due to whatever incapacitated the crew.
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Unless the flight crew didn't know what they were doing, this is not how an FMS works. If they have properly pre-loaded the flight plan, once you are airborne and select "NAV" (on the RJ, I believe on the Boing series it's call "LNAV" but I'm not familiar with the FMS/AP integration at all), the aircraft will follow the path defined by the FMS. Once the aircraft reaches the last fix, it continues to fly the course (IIRC) it was on last until some external input changes.

Or is it just wishful thinking that this was an accident and not deliberate.
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I certainly can't speak for everyone else but I would prefer this to be a hijacking. Why? Because if so, since there are no major buildings destroyed in that area of the world, this is more "old school" and there is hope of survivors.
 
IF the airplane did fly for an additional 4 hours, I am going with military shoot down and the unlucky State is not stepping forward.
 
cezzna said:
Like I said, we'll never know. Becoming more apparent by the minute.

Disappeared. Like a fart in the wind.
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But at least a good fart can be around longer than the flight was able to be tracked.....

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Predictions: Eventually, the wreckage will be found in a location that isn't very surprising.

How strong is the evidence that the aircraft reversed course and flew back over Malaysia? Is the evidence limited to a military radar operator recalling an unknown target crossing his scope a day or two prior?

Are accounts of the ACARS stream continuing for four hours now discredited?

Small pieces of debris are tough to spot from the air and some light chop can dissipate this volume of jet fuel pretty quickly.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
Predictions: Eventually, the wreckage will be found in a location that isn't very surprising.

How strong is the evidence that the aircraft reversed course and flew back over Malaysia? Is the evidence limited to a military radar operator recalling an unknown target crossing his scope a day or two prior?

Are accounts of the ACARS stream continuing for four hours now discredited?

Small pieces of debris are tough to spot from the air and some light chop can dissipate this volume of jet fuel pretty quickly.
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No.

It's on a volcanic island being dissasembled for sale on the black market.

Source: Its the best possible outcome, and just as possible as any other theory.

That being said, you're probably right
 
One of the (many) problems here is that the Malaysian government and by default, Malaysian Airlines, is losing credibility as the primary point of information dissemination.

As many of you have seen, overnight, Andy Pasztor wrote this story for the WSJ, saying there was 4 more hours of ACARS transmitted, engine data.
Also noted on here, and I agree, Andy Pasztor is about as good as they come for journalist writing about aviation.

Now, the Malaysian government has refuted the WSJ story, but at this point, I'm not sure they have the credibility to be believable.
 
Who are you going to believe at this point - Rolls Royce which has had performance data for six days and kept quiet about it, or the Malaysian government which has been changing their stories for six days, and whose military and civilian aviation authorities contradict one another?

The Malaysians don't know what RR has, so they're not in a position to refute anything that they're saying.
 
If it's on land, it will eventually be found, and possibly the cause. Most likely pieces will wash ashore, somewhere, someday, but the lions share and location will be held a mystery for a long, long time.
 
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