Supposedly they found some debris before it got dark out last night. An "inner door" and a piece of the vertical stabilizer which you would assume would have some of the Livery on it thus identifying it.
Vietnam's navy has spotted another floating object about 80 kilometers (50 miles) southwest of Vietnam's Tho Chu Island, which is located off the country's southwest coast in the Gulf of Thailand, Vietnam National Search and Rescue Committee Spokesman Hung Nguyen told CNN. The object was spotted by a Vietnamese navy rescue aircraft at about 7:30 a.m. ET Sunday (6:30 p.m. local time). Due to the dark, the navy aircraft could not get close enough to identify the floating object, and was recalled to base. Three search and rescue boats have since been deployed to that location.
Since "something" was spotted by a Navy plane from a certain height off the water during the evening, how could they possibly make an exact ID on whatever it was enough to discern "an inner door" or a piece of a vs"? A ship would need to actually reach the item or items and pick them up or examine them more closely. A lot of crap is found floating in the sea cast off from freighters and other vessels. This harkens to the supposed "slicks". None of them have been tested. Between actual oil, fuel, slicks from vessels, algae blooms, coral dust and other marine/biological phenomena, many things can again look like "something" but no identifying of the "somethings" has actually taken place. Even the confusion over stolen passports being reported by various "sources" ranging in numbers from 2 to 4 to 10 now.Supposedly they found some debris before it got dark out last night. An "inner door" and a piece of the vertical stabilizer which you would assume would have some of the Livery on it thus identifying it.
Now a days you can whip out the trusty cell phone and go to Wikipedia.Had a discussion at work the other day how Mythbusters is the new 'has to be true' LOL. Back in the day if someone questioned your facts you would tell them, "Go look it up," knowing that no one actually would. And now if you get into a discussion about things you can back it up with, "They Mythbusted that!"
Not saying they DIDN'T Mythbust stamp on a rotor, you just reminded me of it.
I'm not sure I wasn't there. I'd assume though if they saw a vertical stabilizer you'd see some paint on it and make the connection.Since "something" was spotted by a Navy plane from a certain height off the water during the evening, how could they possibly make an exact ID on whatever it was enough to discern "an inner door" or a piece of a vs"? A ship would need to actually reach the item or items and pick them up or examine them more closely. A lot of crap is found floating in the sea cast off from freighters and other vessels. This harkens to the supposed "slicks". None of them have been tested. Between actual oil, fuel, slicks from vessels, algae blooms, coral dust and other marine/biological phenomena, many things can again look like "something" but no identifying of the "somethings" has actually taken place. Even the confusion over stolen passports being reported by various "sources" ranging in numbers from 2 to 4 to 10 now.
Everyone is looking for clues and answers, but there are next to none at this point.
Even IF someone flew this thing as fast as possible into the ocean, there would have to be some sort of debris left.... something.Debris being reported as NOT from MH370.
@Derg or similar - reports today state 5 people checked in but never boarded and their bags had to be unloaded. That seems like a high number - I would imagine one or two being too drunk but 5 seemed a lot. Is it?
Yup. One of my early instructors said "there's really not much people on the ground can do for you." Those words have stuck with me.
When I lost an engine out of ORD way back in the day, once we were established on a nice long downwind (and I took a few more slugs of my Egg McMuffin, we sent a message to flight control about the situation and that we were returning to the the airport, we didn't hear a peep out of them until we were packing up our stuff to head to the hotel.
Pretty sure Boeing and the airline know more about this than CNN does.Anyone have a good reason why flight data is still stored in the black boxes and not relayed and stored on the ground?
Anyone have a good reason why flight data is still stored in the black boxes and not relayed and stored on the ground?
Sheer cost. It's relatively inexpensive to send maintenance messages over satcom or some HF, it becomes a whole lot more data to send all in a sudden and I'm not even sure the satellites used for SATCOM could handle so much data from so much airplanes flying at the same time...?Anyone have a good reason why flight data is still stored in the black boxes and not relayed and stored on the ground?
That makes sense. Didn't think about the enormity of data aspect.Sheer cost. It's relatively inexpensive to send maintenance messages over satcom or some HF, it becomes a whole lot more data to send all in a sudden and I'm not even sure the satellites used for SATCOM could handle so much data from so much airplanes flying at the same time...?
"The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," a source involved in the investigations in Malaysia told Reuters.