h0ckeyace
Well-Known Member
Affirm! I was just getting my 29 hour LMT routine down too...
Terrible line in March. FAR 117 to blame?
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Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Meh. I just flew one of our CLD high-speeds (displaced, reassigned). I wouldn't like doing them back to back, but every once in a while I'd do them. Still think they're problematic (reserve coverage is near impossible).
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Sounds like 117 made times worse?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
I only flew one month under 117 as a line holder, and I wound up with 90 hours of block with 15 days off. Thanks to the snowstorm and the soft time associated with that, I was up around 110 hours of credit, though.
117 is going to be as bad or good as what your scheduling rules/contract are. Here, we're losing efficiency because of buffers being built in to the schedules to keep people from timing out when the weekly winter storms hit JFK and BOS. They have apparently found a way that reserves will be able to bid 6 on/1 off again (which they could legally under 117 anyway, but management wanted to get a couple of months of ops under their belt first I guess), so that'll be good for guys that want bigger blocks of days off elsewhere in the month. They're starting to tweak the min scheduled rest buffers to being less in bases and longer at outstations, which makes sense. If you time out in a base, there are better odds there will be a reserve to cover it. Take away the block/duty/rest buffers, and almost all of my trips pre-117 would have been legal under 117. Add in these airline induced buffers, and a lot of them weren't gonna get built by PBS.
117 is going to be as bad or good as what your scheduling rules/contract are. Here, we're losing efficiency because of buffers being built in to the schedules to keep people from timing out when the weekly winter storms hit JFK and BOS. They have apparently found a way that reserves will be able to bid 6 on/1 off again (which they could legally under 117 anyway, but management wanted to get a couple of months of ops under their belt first I guess), so that'll be good for guys that want bigger blocks of days off elsewhere in the month. They're starting to tweak the min scheduled rest buffers to being less in bases and longer at outstations, which makes sense. If you time out in a base, there are better odds there will be a reserve to cover it. Take away the block/duty/rest buffers, and almost all of my trips pre-117 would have been legal under 117. Add in these airline induced buffers, and a lot of them weren't gonna get built by PBS.
av8or91
Well-Known Member
Base? Line or relief? Ridiculous how you have to be number 1 or 2 in the company to get many days off anymore.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Personally i wouldn't call that bad. Then again my perspective is based on first year pay and only having min days off. If I have to work a lot I want to get paid a lot. 15 hour 4 days need to die.
WestIndian425
Well-Known Member
Apparently you're not the only one. I have 95 block, and 101 credit. I waived the default minimum credit. smh...
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
I'm of the opinion that we should be doing our own, parallel, pairing construction, and if we can prove we can cover the flying legally with a better QOL, they should use our pairings.
(Not happening anytime soon. Additionally, nobody asked me, and nobody will be asking me.)
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Waive default min credit means "If possible with line constraints, I am okay with a solution under 58:36."
Required minimum line value doesn't care, yo.
WestIndian425
Well-Known Member
I put that in so I can get the days off I wanted. I'm 62 in IAH and didn't get any of the days I wanted and that high value of credit. From what I'm hearing, no one is happy with theirs. Strange.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
Hard line with smart ILIW skills... I'm #30 in KC.
av8or91
Well-Known Member
Nice! I was getting similar with relief lines but it has become a lot more difficult lately.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
"The point of PBS is to cover the flying."
WestIndian425
Well-Known Member
LOL..."The point of PBS is to cover the flying."
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
No LOL, that's a direct quotation.
WestIndian425
Well-Known Member
Who said that?
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
"The point of PBS is to cover the flying."
I've been bidding hard lines the past several months, and I really prefer it to PBS. No CN/PN BS! I really hope I don't have to go back to PBS in April.
Xcaliber
El Chupacabra
SLC Bro FO...I love my March schedule. 89 credit with 12 days off. Not much, but I did manage to get all weekends off, for the first time ever. 117 had very little impact to our schedules. Losing SUN to the RJ did. Now that we're picking up VEL, CNY, and PUB, our lines are looking good again.