Republic TA

I got an interview invite from Republic and to get me to the interview they don't positive space but have you "standby" non rev to Indy. Are they serious? Hotel also not provided. Same thing with the TSA interview invite. What a joke. Do they really want to recruit at all? Every time I update my airline apps for united I get a call from them.
 
ozziecat35 said:
It does, thanks! As a pilot, what is a "fair" setup? ie do you guys prefer duty over trip rigs, my guess is that it will vary based on your schedule and other unforeseen occurrences such as weather or mx. What's the threshold where you would start saying , "Yeah, that's a good rig" vs "WTF, where's my pitchfork?!"
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Each rig is designed to force the schedules to be better. For example a duty rig cuts down on long sits during the day where as a TAFB rig limits long sits at hotels. A trip rig pushes the schedules to limit very low value trips. Basically when a company builds pairings (assuming it is computerized, which I'd guess all of them are) they "penalize" certain things like long sits, plane swaps, deadheads and what not with a value. The more than penalize a certain thing the more the line builder tries to avoid it. It's a constant balancing act as doing something like hugely penalizing long sits could do something like increase plane swaps. Penalizing long overnights could increase deadheads (as a method of getting crews into position for the next day). How they load the pairing builder is normally financially and contractually motivated.

So, to answer your question about which rigs are better, it comes down to @Derg (and @Polar742) and MMMTO. When I am at work I want to be getting paid to be at work. Either do it through actually having me flying (and getting flight credit) or, if you are going to make me sit (either in the airport between flights or in a hotel somewhere else) I'd better be getting paid for that as well. Obviously a 1:1 rig would be the absolute best. I'm relatively new to the big leagues so I don't know what a "good" rig would be. We are at a 1:1.8 and 4:10 min day and I think that's pretty good. Obviously I'd prefer a 5 or 6 hour min day and a 1:1.2 rig or something, but that's probably no so realistic.
 
DenverPilot8 said:
I got an interview invite from Republic and to get me to the interview they don't positive space but have you "standby" non rev to Indy. Are they serious? Hotel also not provided. Same thing with the TSA interview invite. What a joke. Do they really want to recruit at all? Every time I update my airline apps for united I get a call from them.
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Just remember that they don't truly run an airline under their own brand, so they really don't have rights to give someone else's seats away. Its a great introduction to Republic though.
 
Kingairer said:
Just remember that they don't truly run an airline under their own brand, so they really don't have rights to give someone else's seats away. Its a great introduction to Republic though.
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Then how do the others do the positive space? RAH actual PS me when I went out a long time ago.
 
jtrain609 said:
You'd know the answer to this if you went a road show.

*ducks*

(But really it's a holdover from the XJT contract, and was explained fully in the road show)
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I know you and I have talked about this already...but if that's the case (kind of like the clock starting for us on the CRJ once the wheels move) then take it out.

Leaving language like that in the contract is just asking for the company to abuse it down the road.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I know you and I have talked about this already...but if that's the case (kind of like the clock starting for us on the CRJ once the wheels move) then take it out.

Leaving language like that in the contract is just asking for the company to abuse it down the road.
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Tell your rep, I had nothing to do with the TA.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
Then how do the others do the positive space? RAH actual PS me when I went out a long time ago.
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I think it has to do with which brand is available in your city. If it's way out of the way to PS someone, they may just SA them. I was PSd for my interview (MKE-PHL-IND) on Republic operating for US Airways back in '08. My hotel was paid for, I think.
 
Frontier perhaps? At any rate, it is a window into the future. Maybe they'll have to change their ways in the current environment, but that sounds like that isn't the case so far.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I know you and I have talked about this already...but if that's the case (kind of like the clock starting for us on the CRJ once the wheels move) then take it out.

Leaving language like that in the contract is just asking for the company to abuse it down the road.
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Things don't just come out of a contract that easily. You have to bargain for everything.
 
@flyinggreasemnky I rechecked 117 and yes I forgot, if the brake is set you can't be reassigned... I reread some of our talking points on a different forum which I can re-explain below.

DE727UPS said:
I don't mean to drift the thread but contact-ability in the hotel is something my company is taking baby steps to take back. They can leave you phone messages at any time but it's not considered contact since they didn't call you. They are saying "you should answer your phone on a layover outside legal crew rest cause me might be us telling you about a family emergency". When you log onto the crew scheduling web site they can force you to see an advisement to move on but it's not considered "contact". Our contract clearly states we don't have to be contactable on a layover but that doesn't keep them from trying. Just wondering how other airlines do it.
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They do the same thing at RAH, usually calling the hotel front desk to leave a message, but we don't have to answer. In our contract the only real way the company can "get" you and force you to call/talk to them for a reassignment is if on the release it says "FO or CA must call crew schedule prior to departure," or if a base manager/chief pilot/other management is waiting for you at the gate saying "your being reassigned." But not after the last flight of the flight duty period now of course. We're not required to answer the phone, there's been drama where scheduling forgets to add this in the release in next to last leg and the doors already been shut w/o the brake being released yet and they'll try to call. Technically, I think you can still legally answer if want and you haven't started the BEFORE START check. They can use SELCAL also.

This is what management is trying to change and appeared on the leaked notes, we'll see... its not a concession I'm really willing to give up, at least not without some HUGE (and I mean HUUUGGEE) other hard pay, soft pay, or QOL trades.

@ozziecat35 pretty much the min standard for a trip rig is about 4:1, anything better than that is decent, any less is sub-standard for a regional. I can't speak for mainline trip and duty rigs, but I'd imagine they'd be even better.
 
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ATN_Pilot said:
Things don't just come out of a contract that easily. You have to bargain for everything.
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This was probably the single biggest frustrating part of talking with pilots while I was on the NC. You can propose anything you want, but it doesn't mean the company is going to accept it. I'd bet if you REALLY wanted the pilot contact language out, you could do it, but do you really want to give up 2% of your pay for that? Or a day off every month?
 
BobDDuck said:
This was probably the single biggest frustrating part of talking with pilots while I was on the NC. You can propose anything you want, but it doesn't mean the company is going to accept it. I'd bet if you REALLY wanted the pilot contact language out, you could do it, but do you really want to give up 2% of your pay for that? Or a day off every month?
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Most pilots have this image in their head of showing up to the table and banging their fists on it and making demands. That might make for a good movie, but it's certainly not the real world.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Most pilots have this image in their head of showing up to the table and banging their fists on it and making demands. That might make for a good movie, but it's certainly not the real world.
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Which is why if we're going to have unions, they should behave the way unions used to. Management say no? Union gives them cement shoes.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Most pilots have this image in their head of showing up to the table and banging their fists on it and making demands. That might make for a good movie, but it's certainly not the real world.
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I got to do that once. We caught the company in a pretty bad lie (in a grievance review committee meeting) and I got to slam my hand down on the table, yell "why are you ####ing lying to my face???" at the VP of HR and Director of Dispatch.

Not going to lie. That was kind of fun.
 
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