Air India goes off runway...after fuel emergency
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ross9238
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Add another to the list on JC.
ChasenSFO
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Another pic, this one taken shortly after the accident.
And according to this link, the diversion and fuel emergency was due to the aircraft's intended destination fogging in, and the wing did strike the ground and not the cluster of trees off the side of the runway. Not sure what the alternate rules are in India, almost sounds like they were caught with their pants down when Delhi fogged in and didn't have any solid options.
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=163045
On a side note, 173 people on an A320?
And according to this link, the diversion and fuel emergency was due to the aircraft's intended destination fogging in, and the wing did strike the ground and not the cluster of trees off the side of the runway. Not sure what the alternate rules are in India, almost sounds like they were caught with their pants down when Delhi fogged in and didn't have any solid options.
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=163045
On a side note, 173 people on an A320?
Minuteman
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A Life Aloft
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IA ordered them configured with 4 mains. I don't know of another carrier who did this either. I can only assume this was done due to some of the dodgy pavements there. Spreads the weight.
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ChasenSFO
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A Life Aloft
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AB must have produced a few more then, besides the ones ordered by IA. Never knew that. Are you aware of any carrier flying them in the 4 configuration or were they sold and all converted over to 2 after sale?Woah.
It was converted to standard gear soon afterwards.
ChasenSFO
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There is debate about that plane doing revenue flying for BCal or if they simply let Airbus use the plane as a test bed to get a discount on a very early build new model. As far as I know, this is the only one converted back to normal gear. I think Indian Airlines may have had a few with that config, but if they did they were probably ex-Air India birds.
Edit: Yep.
dustoff17
Still trying to reach the Top Shelf
The difference between these two is a pretty thin line, isn't it?
I hope I'm always on one side or the other.......
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Civil Aviation Safety Advisory Committee member Capt Mohan Ranganathan said several factors may have contributed to the accident.
"There is fatigue, stress due to zero visibility and the knowledge of being low on fuel," said Ranganathan. "Under these conditions, the heart rate of the pilot would have been extremely high and the body would have experienced sugar depletion, resulting in momentary disorientation."
Looks like the investigation is about done.
"There is fatigue, stress due to zero visibility and the knowledge of being low on fuel," said Ranganathan. "Under these conditions, the heart rate of the pilot would have been extremely high and the body would have experienced sugar depletion, resulting in momentary disorientation."
Looks like the investigation is about done.
nwpac
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I just spent a year over in that part of the world and there seems to be a culture of diverting blame/ not admitting mistakes. You don't really see the phrase "pilot error" that often.
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Hey, is that a Just C—oh, wait, nevermind. *Innocent*
But yeah, that's -very- common in the software engineering world, as well. I suspect it's cultural.
Director> "What's the progress on the release?"
Engineering> "My team is blocked by SVCS-4207. We are waiting on Operations to do the needful."
Systems> "Wait, what? We replied to that ticket a week ago. You're not blocked. Your commits have been failing because Ritesh has a lock on one file that he needs to release. You manage your own locks, and commits to the other tree is completely unaffected. What have you been doing for the past two weeks??"
Engineering> "My team was blocked by this problem and SVCS-4292, and we could not work."
Systems> "SVCS-4292 was closed because we do not allow rsh without an ssh wrapper. We told you that from the start..."
Engineering> "We are blocked without rsh, and we cannot meet our deadline because of Systems team."
Systems> "We provided you an ssh wrapper—all you have to do is add your private key when you login."
Engineering> "No, it does not work. We are blocked."
Systems> "...!"
~Fox
[NB. Not a real conversation, but near enough as to make no nevermind!]
ChasenSFO
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Well, this is the same country that, when recently threatened to have its safety category downgraded by the FAA, responded by saying it would put out an embargo on Boeing-made aircraft being delivered to Air India. FAA says strengthen your safety programs for the sake of American passengers(and their own really), and they respond with a threat.
http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/india-warns-faa-over-air-safety-downgrade-22346
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You'd think that Boeing would support India on this. The higher the flight risk, the more the planes will crash, the more replacement airplane they buy, and the wheel goes 'round and 'round. The only downside I see with this scheme is running out of Indians who fly, but with a population of 1.25 BILLION people, that won't happen anytime soon.
ChasenSFO
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The 787 does a pretty good job of catching fire without the help of Indian pilots.
NewYorkophile
Fly Casual
Double burn.
