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Pilots Cited in Asiana Crash
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SeanD
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It looks like the FO was the only one who kind of knew what was happening from the JS.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/ntsb-hearing-asiana-flight-214/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/ntsb-hearing-asiana-flight-214/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Everything is crystal clear from the third seat.
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crazyjaydawg
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ALPA will save them.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
That new video is pretty damn crazy.
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
Have they not done the software update for THR RED/ACC? We used to have to override that on the takeoff perf page on mini-fifi, but that was fixed about a year ago.
The TDU overrides it anyways, now.
CaptBill
Well-Known Member
They have no business flying airplanes if they are unable to land a perfectly good 777 on a perfectly good day on a perfectly long runway. Culture, respect, glare or not understanding how stuff works.... All lame excuses and BS.
This accident just pisses me off because it was so easily preventable. Grrrrr.
They, and whoever turned them loose with a plane full of passengers, needs to go live a life of servitude to those family members whose loved ones were killed so needlessly.
This accident just pisses me off because it was so easily preventable. Grrrrr.
They, and whoever turned them loose with a plane full of passengers, needs to go live a life of servitude to those family members whose loved ones were killed so needlessly.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
What @Polar742 said. The -300Fs do performance data through ACARS that also uplinks directly to the PERF INIT and TAKEOFF REF pages. Super simple. I don't miss the stone age crap I used to have to do at the old shop.
We've got that on the Glass DC9. It's pretty nice but when the numbers don't uplink it takes me a minute to remember where to find the TOCG and ZFWCG data to load it in.
SeanD
Well-Known Member
This x100
Amen.
From my first lesson, my CFI always said on approach: "Watch your airspeed" To this day, I hear his voice on final. And I am always cross checking my airspeed. Seems to me this would be automatic for professional pilots.
Even though I don't fly heavy metal and know next to nothing about autothrottles, etc. The basics must be the same:
On speed?, on glideslope?, how's that site picture look?, On speed?, on glideslope?, how's that site picture look?, rinse-repeat.
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
Luckily, we don't have it on the 744, and the 748 is so half-assed we just manually load it.
Can't rely on automation...theme of the thread.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Very much the same. I keep my hands on the throttles while I'm hand flying, even if I have the autothrottles hooked up. Actually, I almost always have a hand on them if they're making a big thrust change. It might be big, but it's still an airplane. Sight pictures, etc. all still work the same.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Isn't a "visual" approach still an instrument approach?
I don't think a 777 is gonna go VFR.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I think he meant that he felt pressured to take the visual, rather than ask for an ILS.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Why would you take an ILS on a day that was clear and a million???
Isn't the ILS approaches for low ceilings? Back when I was an uber aviation geek, I used to call ATIS (Yeah I was that guy. Don't laugh you all know you did it too) just to listen to the ATIS broadcast. Anyway, here in PHX with our weather they always say visual approach rwy. 08/26. On a rare low ceiling day then in the notes they'll state ILS approach 08/26.