Pilots Cited in Asiana Crash

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Well, heck, it's pretty much SOP to load up the LOC and concomitant GS during any visual approach. I'm beginning to have no patience left for pilots who just can't fly airplanes. Or, perhaps these boneheads were so lame they never even thought to do that, or that it was illegal because they had been assigned a visual. It's especially irksome when these folks are getting paid big bucks to "fly" great big airplanes when they couldn't even keep the rudder coordinated in say, a Citabria. Lame, lame, lame. Losing fail.
Too harsh? Tell it to the parents of the dead girls.

Although still a great tragedy, only two girls were killed from the aircraft itself. The other one was run over by a CFR truck.

 

[BeRich]

Although still a great tragedy, only two girls were killed from the aircraft itself. The other one was run over by a CFR truck.

I'm going to go ahead and argue that that's still a direct result of the whole crashing thing.

 

[z987k]

I must apologize for being 26, but show me where and I'll do it.

I think Kalitta still flies em.

 

[sweeps]

A. FLOOR, which is actually "alpha floor" is an autothrottle protection build in for stall protection. In the Airbus, you enter A. FLOOR at a certain speed right around stall speed. The thrust goes automatically to TOGA power, and stays there after you exit the alpha floor condition. Then you have to match the thrust levers to the TOGA detent, disconnect the A/T and reduce the power manually. Alpha floor protection is always available unless the A/T system itself is inop/deferred, and of course below 100 RA.

On the 777, it is referred to as "autothrottle wakeup." The thrust comes up as you approach a stall condition, but not in the dramatic TOGA manner. I believe (staplegun and others can correct me) it's only just an increase in thrust to get it out of the condition, not straight to TOGA power. It's also not available below 100 RA.


"Recover from the recovery!

I got my first real A. FLOOR last summer when escaping from a windshear. I was quite thankful we do them so much in the sim! Made it much less of an event.

Well, I've demoed them on functional check flights, but that was the first time I've seen it in non-controlled conditions.

Thanks, makes a lot more sense now.