Skywest pilot antics in IAH

jtrain609 said:
Legacy as in the original, not legacy as in legacy airline. Websters says:

"Something transmitted by or received from an ancestor or predecessor or from the past <the legacy of the ancient philosophers>"
Click to expand...

I think he meant by then, SureJet should be one list. Hack lawyers, sheesh.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
There are no sets of circumstances that would result in my climbing the belt loader.
Click to expand...

When I was a lowly first officer at Mesa Airlines during a trip I was covering in PHX on our last leg we were marshaled in to the parking spot and the Captain saw someone he recognized waiting for the airplane: a crew scheduler/tracker. Sometimes they would meet airplanes to junior man someone, and we knew DHC-8 captains were short that day. He got on the PA, asked the passengers to remain seated for a moment after parking and shutdown the aircraft. He then nodded to me, asked me to finish up and gathered his stuff and opened the cockpit door and walked with a purpose down the aircraft's isle all the way to the back, opened the cargo-bay access door and hoped back into the cargo area and closed it behind him. I'm told he caused the baggage handler a little bit of a surprise, but quickly used the belt loader (with the belt stationary) as a stairs to get onto the ramp and was gone.

It was rather amusing to see the double take of the crew tracker (who had waited until the passengers deplaned) when she came up to the cockpit and saw only one pilot. "Where is Captain So-and-so??" she asked me. "You just missed him." I told her truthfully.

Personally, while I might not go to those lengths to dodge a junior man I am not going to criticise his use of the belt loader.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
When I was a lowly first officer at Mesa Airlines during a trip I was covering in PHX on our last leg we were marshaled in to the parking spot and the Captain saw someone he recognized waiting for the airplane: a crew scheduler/tracker. Sometimes they would meet airplanes to junior man someone, and we knew DHC-8 captains were short that day. He got on the PA, asked the passengers to remain seated for a moment after parking and shutdown the aircraft. He then nodded to me, asked me to finish up and gathered his stuff and opened the cockpit door and walked with a purpose down the aircraft's isle all the way to the back, opened the cargo-bay access door and hoped back into the cargo area and closed it behind him. I'm told he caused the baggage handler a little bit of a surprise, but quickly used the belt loader (with the belt stationary) as a stairs to get onto the ramp and was gone.

It was rather amusing to see the double take of the crew tracker (who had waited until the passengers deplaned) when she came up to the cockpit and saw only one pilot. "Where is Captain So-and-so??" she asked me. "You just missed him." I told her truthfully.

Personally, while I might not go to those lengths to dodge a junior man I am not going to criticise his use of the belt loader.
Click to expand...
Now that's some funny stuff right there.
 
I heard all sorts of stories at XJT about crew members using alternative methods to escape crew trackers. Some are believable, others, not so much. There are some pretty legendary stories out there. There is a story about an FA who used a PBE on a PAX who was requesting oxygen. :bounce:
 
desertdog71 said:
View attachment 24080

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...

I see that and raise you this gem:

Az7G9lxCAAAvzGz.jpg
 
SeanD said:
I heard all sorts of stories at XJT about crew members using alternative methods to escape crew trackers. Some are believable, others, not so much. There are some pretty legendary stories out there. There is a story about an FA who used a PBE on a PAX who was requesting oxygen. :bounce:
Click to expand...
That's a story from just about every airline...
 
cencal83406 said:
Bottom line in this case isn't "union thuggery" or laziness of employees. The bottom line is the corporation has to answer to insurance underwriters. I have a clearly defined set of responsibilities in my company FOM. Union or not, those are the responsibilities given to me at my position. Anything I do past those responsibilities is on me. If I want to assume the risk I will do so. If not, it doesn't make me lazy.

Don't sarcastically thank unions for this - thank corporations, the court system, and insurance in the 21st century. It's all about the money - if they don't have to pay (you got injured and you weren't doing something covered in your job responsibilities), they won't.

I've seen corporate pilot employment agreements - it's all covered. Therefore the liability, should they get hurt, falls at company and underwriter's feet to "make it right".
Click to expand...



I think everyone agrees that walking the belt loader was a bad decision. However, the issue that is causing problems is the commentators attitude, unprofessionalism, and lack of respect for himself, let alone his coworkers.
 
SeanD said:
I heard all sorts of stories at XJT about crew members using alternative methods to escape crew trackers. Some are believable, others, not so much. There are some pretty legendary stories out there. There is a story about an FA who used a PBE on a PAX who was requesting oxygen. :bounce:
Click to expand...

Crew trackers? That's creepy to me. I mean, I understand a note on the release or something like that, but sending people after you is disturbing. The stories about dodging them is funny stuff though.
 
JLF said:
Crew trackers? That's creepy to me. I mean, I understand a note on the release or something like that, but sending people after you is disturbing. The stories about dodging them is funny stuff though.
Click to expand...


Most of the trackers I saw in ORD at XJT were FAs. Clipboard in hand and ready to ruin someone's day.
 
Thank god SkyWest dosen't have involuntary junior manning... Otherwise I'd have to jump out the service door. And how would that look on an iphone video?
 
pavelump said:
Thank god SkyWest dosen't have involuntary junior manning... Otherwise I'd have to jump out the service door. And how would that look on an iphone video?
Click to expand...


Look at it this way. You would be a YouTube sensation (unemployed) and a hero to regional pilots across the nation. ;)
 
JLF said:
Crew trackers? That's creepy to me. I mean, I understand a note on the release or something like that, but sending people after you is disturbing. The stories about dodging them is funny stuff though.
Click to expand...

Jetway assignments!
 
etflies said:
Intercept crew members who thought they were going home, and notify them that they are not, in fact, done working.
Click to expand...

To compound on this, at many regionals, your days off are not really days off. The company can take away your awarded days off, make you continue to fly up to FAR limits, and then give those days back later in the month. Or not in some cases. It can get kind of brutal when staffing gets tight.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top