Flying the CRJ-200...tell me about it please....

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I've been following this thread since the beginning and it finally appears that (most) everybody is starting to understand each other. I'm not going to act like I know all about military and/or 121 flying because I have done neither, but do know people fairly well that have. I have the utmost respect for anyone in the military, especially the pilots. Like someone said in the Blue Angels thread; if there's anything that will make you feel insecure about your flying abilities, it's watching the Blue Angels, but I think that goes for any military pilot. But like what has been said above, I think every different type of flying has it's own demanding elements. I'm sure pilots flying small military jets have amazing stick and rudder skills, and 121 pilots have the added role of "Captain of the Ship" as someone else put it. I started reading The Right Stuff last night for a class, and it kept reminding me of this thread. Although it focuses mainly on military pilots, I think the statement about the ego of pilots is very true. Although the level of it differs, I think all pilots have a certain amount of ego that comes up in discussions like this but in the end we just become more proficient at what we are used to, and eventually that will override the background from which we came.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Well, you know, I was broke, drunk, and it was only a two week course...
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The sad thing is that you probably made more than most regional FO's doing it.

I can understand how bunk's views can be misunderstood. In the end the guy is humble enough to take a regional job. People seem to forget the man is at least 42 years of age! At this point the equivalent regional guys are trying to go to a major as well.

Every plane does fly differently to an extent. Heck, every Metro I fly in has some sort of different characteristic to it that makes it fly a bit differently. The funny thing is people that believe otherwise are likely the ones that have only been flying one airframe for years and years now. I wouldn't step into a jet from a t-prop expecting the same thing. Obviously the basics of flight are the same, but every type has something a bit different you have to deal with. Every type of plane has it's own oddity. A 172 flares high where a PA-28 has a lower flare. The differences are there. Bunk asking these questions is a good thing. For me it shows more of a humble attitude than anything else.

Military guys are normally seen as arrogant and seeing bunk ask these questions is a good thing. I'm surprised people had responded the way they have. Tons of sarcasm has been thrown around lately. Even some comments of my own have been getting sarcastic replies that don't actually help further discussions or the learning of others. The only way I can explain it is people are trying to be like Doug without actually providing good information at the same time.
 
Maurus said:
I can understand how bunk's views can be misunderstood. In the end the guy is humble enough to take a regional job. People seem to forget the man is at least 42 years of age! At this point the equivalent regional guys are trying to go to a major as well.
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Somehow, I feel like you're calling me old ;) Yes, I'm 42 and yes, I'm feeling it!!!
 
Interesting thread.... and now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

I flew the CRJ-200 five years. One year as FO and four as captain. It was the first jet I ever flew so it holds a special place in my heart! I really enjoyed it. The EICAS, I think, is one of the best features of the jet. That and the speed trend vector as mentioned earlier. Smoothly adjust power until it goes away at your desired airspeed. The trailing link gear makes for some smooth landings.

It's not a perfect airplane (nothing is perfect except our Creator), but its on par with other airplanes I've flown. I've had just as many flap failures in the 737 as I did in the CRJ (that being only ONCE). I think the CRJ systems were easier to understand than the 737.

Bunk, with your military training (heavy on systems and raw data), you'll have no problem learning the airplane. The FMC will take some getting used to, but any techno geek of our generation can get it!

Congrats on your retirement and next phase of your flying career!
 
okay, time for my brief argument....which is prefaced with I have never flown 121.

At least in the airframe I am in, instrument approaches are about 95% of our flying. We can carry 73 pax and usually have pax. I'd say our crew management rivals 121 stuff. I am responsible for a $400 million airplane, as well as a crew of up to 22 (A lot of those crew members are 18-20 also)....a vast majority of that up against 24 hour duty days and out of the comfort of faa airspace....just remember military flying isn't all about breaking stuff and killing people.
 
cezzna said:
Wow! This is the post doctoral CRJ-200 thread. Clearly you guys made the 200 your maternal dog.
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You can do this with about every airplane. Doug could probably write several posts on the 757/767 as well as the MD-88. Others can do it on the 737...when you spend 3-10000 hrs in a single airplane flying it day in and day out, you learn the quirks of it as well as what works and what doesn't.
 
Boris Badenov said:
I'll never know what it's like to fly nap of the earth in formation on NVGs whilst Achmed is shooting at you. Your average military guy is never going to know what it's like to fly with no autopilot in a single piston through level 5s, eight hours a day, five days a week, and finish up with an NDB to minimums for peanut wages and get up and do it all again the next day.
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Hey! I've done both! What do I win?
 
ian said:
okay, time for my brief argument....which is prefaced with I have never flown 121.

At least in the airframe I am in, instrument approaches are about 95% of our flying. We can carry 73 pax and usually have pax. I'd say our crew management rivals 121 stuff. I am responsible for a $400 million airplane, as well as a crew of up to 22 (A lot of those crew members are 18-20 also)....a vast majority of that up against 24 hour duty days and out of the comfort of faa airspace....just remember military flying isn't all about breaking stuff and killing people.
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Holy smokes! You're an aircraft commander already? Congrats, man! That was quick!
 
bunk22 said:
My buddy interviewed with United on Wednesday, 4,800 hours in the S-3, T-45 and C-12 (like me, he was booted out of American Eagle interview). I'm at a big disadvantage compared to these guys.
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Just curious how he flew 1800 hours more than you?
 
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