SWA Slides off the runway in DEN

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http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/ar...des-off-taxiway-at-Denver-airport-4026814.php

DENVER (AP) — A Southwest Airlines jet slid off a taxiway at Denver International Airport on Saturday amid light snowfall and freezing temperatures.​
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DIA spokeswoman Jenny Schiavone confirmed that the aircraft slid off the taxiway shortly after 5 p.m. There were no reports of injuries.​
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Schiavone says passengers of Flight 1905 were bused from the taxiway to the concourse.​
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The Denver-bound Boeing 737 had departed Saturday afternoon from Metropolitan Oakland International in California.​
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Schiavone says flight schedules and overall DIA operations were not disrupted following the incident.​
Further details were not immediately available.​
 
UAL747400 said:
100,000,000 knot taxi speeds have anything to do with it? :)
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Again?

I'm thinking the same thing, SWA taxi's like a Bat out of Heck. Seems like they have more than their fair share of sliding off runways and taxiways.



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Apparently they landed on the "far" runway ( never been into DEN).... So a 100,000,000 knot taxi sounds about right. Not that length of taxi matters to them.
 
fholbert said:
Again?

I'm thinking the same thing, SWA taxi's like a Bat out of Heck. Seems like they have more than their fair share of sliding off runways and taxiways.
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There was another one at GEG in the last 5 years too. Unless that was the one in the video.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
The video was another MDW run. That time they did a great test job on the EMAS (installed after their previous accident)
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They actually went into the grass next to the emas..
 
ChasenSFO said:
Its just that time of year when a Southwest 737 slides off a taxiway or runway, doesn't the world know already?
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LOL yeah. This is the time of the year when a young Buck becomes distracted by the facts of life and wanders across the taxiway of your local airport and so does the SWA Captain...
 
fholbert said:
Again?

I'm thinking the same thing, SWA taxi's like a Bat out of Heck. Seems like they have more than their fair share of sliding off runways and taxiways.



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Not that I don't agree with you on the speed that they taxi sometimes I would refrain from posting pictures like these, especially when you don't know diddly about the back story. Specifically speaking about the first pic, that accident resulted in a 6 yo boy being killed after the car he was in was crushed. With out getting into details about what the crew had to deal with regarding seeing the dead kid, or the passengers trying to attack the pilots after the incident and Flight Attendants having to fight them off; it was found that the crew did everything right and ALL of the numbers they had showed that the plane should have been able to stop. The fault of that accident actually ended up on Boeing as the performance numbers they had published were incorrect.

I apologize for the rant but seriously, think about what you are about to put on here before you post. Especially when it has to do with something that resulted in the loss of life.
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
Not that I don't agree with you on the speed that they taxi sometimes I would refrain from posting pictures like these, especially when you don't know diddly about the back story. Specifically speaking about the first pic, that accident resulted in a 6 yo boy being killed after the car he was in was crushed. With out getting into details about what the crew had to deal with regarding seeing the dead kid, or the passengers trying to attack the pilots after the incident and Flight Attendants having to fight them off; it was found that the crew did everything right and ALL of the numbers they had showed that the plane should have been able to stop. The fault of that accident actually ended up on Boeing as the performance numbers they had published were incorrect.

I apologize for the rant but seriously, think about what you are about to put on here before you post. Especially when it has to do with something that resulted in the loss of life.
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I don't see the harm in his post or how it's disrespectful to the boy that was killed. Maybe being a bit oversensitive here.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I don't see the harm in his post or how it's disrespectful to the boy that was killed. Maybe being a bit oversensitive here.
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In that case, perhaps the criticism should have been that the image used had absolutely nothing to do with SWA taxi speeds. That was an overrun accident, as was the image with the gas price quote at the bottom.
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
it was found that the crew did everything right and ALL of the numbers they had showed that the plane should have been able to stop. The fault of that accident actually ended up on Boeing as the performance numbers they had published were incorrect.

I apologize for the rant but seriously, think about what you are about to put on here before you post. Especially when it has to do with something that resulted in the loss of life.
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I agree with us not forgetting that at the end of the day a kid did die in that car.

I'm not so sure where Boeing figures into this. I think the blame was spread around, pilots included (as always). SWA seemed to take the brunt of the faults in their procedures and confusing landing calculations. I believe from having read the analysis that the pilots shouldn't have attempted a landing, that Boeing's calculations were more conservative than Southwest's, that the pilots didn't know the TR's were included in the landing analysis and that they were preoccupied with their new autobrake system.
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
Not that I don't agree with you on the speed that they taxi sometimes I would refrain from posting pictures like these, especially when you don't know diddly about the back story. Specifically speaking about the first pic, that accident resulted in a 6 yo boy being killed after the car he was in was crushed. With out getting into details about what the crew had to deal with regarding seeing the dead kid, or the passengers trying to attack the pilots after the incident and Flight Attendants having to fight them off; it was found that the crew did everything right and ALL of the numbers they had showed that the plane should have been able to stop. The fault of that accident actually ended up on Boeing as the performance numbers they had published were incorrect.

I apologize for the rant but seriously, think about what you are about to put on here before you post. Especially when it has to do with something that resulted in the loss of life.
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http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/summary/AAR0706.html

"The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the probable cause of this accident was the pilots' failure to use available reverse thrust in a timely manner to safely slow or stop the airplane after landing, which resulted in a runway overrun. This failure occurred because the pilots' first experience and lack of familiarity with the airplane's autobrake system distracted them from thrust reverser usage during the challenging landing.

Contributing to the accident were Southwest Airlines' 1) failure to provide its pilots with clear and consistent guidance and training regarding company policies and procedures related to arrival landing distance calculations; 2) programming and design of its on board performance computer, which did not present inherent assumptions in the program critical to pilot decision-making; 3) plan to implement new autobrake procedures without a familiarization period; and 4) failure to include a margin of safety in the arrival assessment to account for operational uncertainties. Also contributing to the accident was the pilots' failure to divert to another airport given reports that included poor braking action and a tailwind component greater than 5 knots. Contributing to the severity of the accident was the absence of an engineering materials arresting system, which was needed because of the limited runway safety area beyond the departure end of runway 31C.

The safety issues discussed in this report include the flight crew's decisions and actions, the clarity of assumptions used in on board performance computers, SWA policies, guidance, and training, arrival landing distance assessments and safety margins, runway surface condition assessments and braking action reports, airplane-based friction measurements, and runway safety areas."
 
AA has slid their fair share off too. We [at Eagle] used to joke it wasn't officially winter until AA slid one off a taxiway or runway.

So yes, SWA has had several incidents, so has AA.
 
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