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But people don't listen anyway, that's the bitter pill I have to take.
It's not a bitter pill - it's career Darwinism in action. Embrace it!
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But people don't listen anyway, that's the bitter pill I have to take.
Oops. Mesaba, not PCL on my story above.
Good information, dasleben!
But people don't listen anyway, that's the bitter pill I have to take.
It's not a bitter pill - it's career Darwinism in action. Embrace it!
But people don't listen anyway, that's the bitter pill I have to take.
SteveC said:It's not a bitter pill - it's career Darwinism in action. Embrace it!
89-LX said:Question here, DAL is just about the only place I want to go. I've had LOR's to get into the regional world, but I know no one in DAL. I tend to have quite a bit of jumpseaters on my flight, but I feel its a little weird to just ask for a LOR. Whats the best way to go about it? I come from a family where I am the only person in aviation, so I don't have much to go with.
You tell them...
"you know, I've always thought about working for Xyz, may I get your number or email address so I can keep in touch about the company and for the future?"
It's not tough, just don't yell "GIMME A RECOMMENDATION, MEOW!!"
Question here, DAL is just about the only place I want to go. I've had LOR's to get into the regional world, but I know no one in DAL. I tend to have quite a bit of jumpseaters on my flight, but I feel its a little weird to just ask for a LOR. Whats the best way to go about it? I come from a family where I am the only person in aviation, so I don't have much to go with.
I used to fly with a captain who carried his resume with him on every flight (2004), and would give it to every UPS, FEDEX, SW jumpseater. Its a little in your face for me, but he had an interview with all 3! He ended up at UPS....later got in trouble with the law, but thats a story for vegas!Question here, DAL is just about the only place I want to go. I've had LOR's to get into the regional world, but I know no one in DAL. I tend to have quite a bit of jumpseaters on my flight, but I feel its a little weird to just ask for a LOR. Whats the best way to go about it? I come from a family where I am the only person in aviation, so I don't have much to go with.
My concern is that some folks are always out to say the "right" thing not what they truly believe-like a politician would. Whether here on the forums, back at the flight school, or at my current job- some folks are just petrified of the "aviation is a small world so don't rock the boat!" syndrome. A certain amount of disagreement and dissent are *good* things. I respect people who will stand for their principles, and say or do what does not conform when their judgment calls for such things. A certain amount of speaking one's mind (respectfully) I think is a mark of character and courage.
Depends on the topic.
If you're debating aviation issues in a cogent, reasonable manner, sure.
However, if it's "Battle Royale" every other post, you've just told me that you're going to be the type of guy where ground school comes to a screeching halt because you want to debate minutia or you don't have the ability to say, "Hmm, perhaps my previous employer did things this way, but this is the new procedure now".
All I want to hear through the gravevine about any of my recommendees is "He's a good guy" or (comically) "amazing a person could be so in to ping-pong", not "don't get him started on politics, oh boy, won't make that mistake again".
Courage and glory are things best left to paintball with the boys on weekends. Hardly anything in our epaulet-wearing, clip-on tie having, stoo-made-the-coffee-too-bitter world requires either.
Question here, DAL is just about the only place I want to go. I've had LOR's to get into the regional world, but I know no one in DAL. I tend to have quite a bit of jumpseaters on my flight, but I feel its a little weird to just ask for a LOR. Whats the best way to go about it? I come from a family where I am the only person in aviation, so I don't have much to go with.
Well you could always just wipe crap with your hands....So can I have a LOR then?
Kidding aside, I always ask about the company, hiring, growth, contract, their plans, etc with every Delta jumpseater. They all seem cool, except for one who bitched about the regionals and how the CR9 is a better aircraft than his 757. But I seem to get quite a bit where I'm the PM, and I wouldn't feel it right asking when I can show them my radio working and gear swinging skills. I think it would be more appropriate to ask for further information from them when they can see my hand flying, radio work, crew communication, etc. Part of me just feels outright weird asking to stay in contact though. I feel like I'm in a toilet stall asking for the neighbor for toilet paper or something.