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USMCmech said:
FedEX and UPS are in the same boat. If a strike shut down Memphis for more than a week, I could see the postal service taking over and the USAF doing the flying.
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Honestly, the postal service is in trouble even WITHOUT a FedEx or UPS shut down. They'd crumble with the added demand if either one of those companies went on strike.

I think it hurts the pilots much more than management. If a PEB stops a strike, management gets what they more or less want: the business keeps running. I like the aspect of the RLA that has previous contracts continue until they are ammended. Beats flying without a contract in general. However, it needs to be fixed so management can't drag out negotiations for a decade.
 
A PEB results in a board appointed by the President telling everyone what the CBA should be. Management doesn't like that idea when a pro-labor president is in the White House. What results is exactly what happened in 1997 with AMR: the pro-labor PEB put out their decision calling for AMR management to give the pilots massive improvements to their CBA.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
A PEB results in a board appointed by the President telling everyone what the CBA should be. Management doesn't like that idea when a pro-labor president is in the White House. What results is exactly what happened in 1997 with AMR: the pro-labor PEB put out their decision calling for AMR management to give the pilots massive improvements to their CBA.
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Lets find another Bill Clinton so we can get someone who is really pro labor, and really will try to fix this damn runaway train that is our governments spending. I can't believe I just said that.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Yes, this is one of the great sekrits of modern economics...inflation isn't an accident, it's a very deliberate part of the wage slavery system.
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I'm certainly not one who can be called a conspiracy theorist, but this post may not be that far off base...
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
Lets find another Bill Clinton so we can get someone who is really pro labor, and really will try to fix this damn runaway train that is our governments spending. I can't believe I just said that.
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Our current president is just as liberal and obviously doesn't care about labor... I don't think its worth the risk voting in another Democrat IMO.
 
Same place they get all their other political sensationalism. The local newspaper if they live in the southeast or Fox News. Dur. ;)
 
ATN_Pilot said:
The president doesn't care about labor? Where do you people come up with this crap?
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Well he certainly hasn't done anything about the current BK laws or our status as pilots under the RLA. In my tiny liberal state in NE local democrats have pillaged pension funds and dumped more and more medical expense responsibility on the employee. All while raising what I'll be paying in taxes... And everyone wonders why I'm moving back to the Midwest. Don't get me wrong I hate the Republicans also, which is why this election is yet another choice between a turd and a • sandwich.
 
Sorry, but that's simple-minded thinking. Anyone who understands how our system of government works should know that the president can't just get things done because he wants to. Changing the bankruptcy laws or the RLA are things that the Republicans block. He can't change them, no matter how much he wants to. Until we have a true progressive majority in both the House and Senate, as well as having the White House, we can't get those big ticket items done.
 
Sure but he can speak about it and throw his weight around. He is still the most powerful man on the planet, whatever he talks about, is paid attention too. The RLA is a bit of an obscure issue to most Americans. But the current bankruptcy laws are downright obnoxious and are devastating to American labor and have gone completely ignored.
 
pete2800 said:
Talking about things you can't get done is all any candidate has done since.... basically forever.
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Those are popular things that 99% of the population wants to hear about. They don't want to hear about the RLA or bankruptcy reform. That's the stuff that doesn't win elections, and it's also the stuff you can only get done when you've got a super-majority.
 
Well he was able to mandate nationalized healthcare, his predecessor got the laws temporarily changed so we could invade Iraq... Mind you he's said numerous times he rather be a great one term president rather than a so so two termer his words not mine.
 
HVYMETALDRVR said:
Our current president is just as liberal and obviously doesn't care about labor... I don't think its worth the risk voting in another Democrat IMO.
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I think Bill Clinton was much more of a moderate than Obama is, he did balance the budget and he did care more about labor then Obama does. Obama's administration is no better than Bush's when it comes to labor. Its all about rewarding those who contribute the most to getting them in office, or will give them kickbacks for business, and no middle class laborer can contribute enough to even matter when it comes to that.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Those are popular things that 99% of the population wants to hear about. They don't want to hear about the RLA or bankruptcy reform. That's the stuff that doesn't win elections, and it's also the stuff you can only get done when you've got a super-majority.
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Don't knock it until you try it.
 
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