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Good grief. Whole Foods is a total yuppie store. Most of their stuff is mass produced junk.
We pay about $25 for 50 pounds of organic red wheat or 25 pounds of spelt to make flour with.... that's a LOT of bread.
Portland Relocation
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Good grief. Whole Foods is a total yuppie store. Most of their stuff is mass produced junk.
We pay about $25 for 50 pounds of organic red wheat or 25 pounds of spelt to make flour with.... that's a LOT of bread.
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I get it for free. Too bad I can't bring any back here. That hard red wheat makes a pretty penny on the ranch
Qutch
Question everything
Oh get off it. A little accident like this could happen to anybody. Those minor scratches will buff right out.
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Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That was an ice storm followed by a snow storm. Crappy time around the PNW those few weeks. My car was driven over by a 16 year old girl in a Tacoma that just got her license. My car was in the shops backlog for 3 months.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
If you must "live" in Portland, I'd look at the east side...if you live on the west side, Highway 26 is a real nightmare...why, because Portland drivers suck. If you're going be at PDX a good bit, find a place in Vancouver near Mill Plain/I-205...it's quite easy to get to the airport from there. Trust me, I sat reserve in PDX for a year and a half from my apartment in Vancouver...it's not that bad, esp when you figure in the tax breaks of living in WA, but shopping in Oregon.
I love Oregon the state, but would live in Washington.
PDX nightlife is pretty decent, just make sure the girls you're talking to are actually girls (buddy of mine almost found this out the hard way...and no, it wasn't me).
Enjoy the PacNW...shoot me a PM if you have any other questions.
I love Oregon the state, but would live in Washington.
PDX nightlife is pretty decent, just make sure the girls you're talking to are actually girls (buddy of mine almost found this out the hard way...and no, it wasn't me).
Enjoy the PacNW...shoot me a PM if you have any other questions.
ILS37R
Well-Known Member
Portland is pretty nice if you can deal with the hipster overload. I wouldn't go across the river to Vancouver, myself--you're too far away from everything, tax savings be damned. The east side is probably where it's it unless you have a high budget or are looking for something in particular you've found on west side. Hawthorne and Belmont are lively without being too dreadful. NE/Alberta is hipster central.
The night life tends to be bar/brewpub oriented, though most bands come through on national tours and the local scene isn't bad. Night clubs are extant, but I can't think of a good one.
Wherever you end up, Portland has a great public transit system, especially if you're convenient to light rail (MAX, as everyone calls it).
Can't speak to the aviation market up there.
The night life tends to be bar/brewpub oriented, though most bands come through on national tours and the local scene isn't bad. Night clubs are extant, but I can't think of a good one.
Wherever you end up, Portland has a great public transit system, especially if you're convenient to light rail (MAX, as everyone calls it).
Can't speak to the aviation market up there.
Avalon781ML
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Not all of us Oregonians are like that... although I am from Eugene you'd never know it... my brother stuck one of these stickers on the back of his truck and gets all sorts of "notes" under his windshield wipers informing him that he is insensitive, barbaric, a protagonist of war, and the sort... hippies are an odd bunch. I never understood the whole Birkenstock craze either. "Normal" people exist here too...Haha I love my big bro and his family (new wife, 2 awesome nephews) but I do get a laugh out of them sometimes. They are actually quite tame compared to a lot of the folks I know from there. I went to some art showing/house party with a childhood friend of mine last dec up there, and it was nearly straight out of that show. Just a whole lot of people trying way too hard to look cool to each other. The worst part is the inevitable discussion that ensues when they find out I'm in the military. I long ago learned to not advertise that with those types of people, and I certainly don't elaborate on what specifically it is that I do, but it is always the same patronizing sympathy show, where they encourage me to get out and "use your GI Bill" to go to college. "They pay for your school right?" I normally just play into it to see how many Lols I can get out of their absolute ignorance. So there ya go qutch, my true feelings
///AMG
Well-Known Member
Not all of us Oregonians are like that... although I am from Eugene you'd never know it... my brother stuck one of these stickers on the back of his truck and gets all sorts of "notes" under his windshield wipers informing him that he is insensitive, barbaric, a protagonist of war, and the sort... hippies are an odd bunch. I never understood the whole Birkenstock craze either. "Normal" people exist here too...
Agreed. I grew up there too and know exactly the type that would care enough about something that dumb to do that
Can't believe they cut off filming just as the fire truck was about to go spinning down the drive!
I want my money back!
CirrusMonkey
No Real Usefulness
I thought I was the only one who noticed that! Why the hell do they always have to ride the inside lane on the freeway??!! It never fails!
NickH
Uber Driver
The best explanation I have heard, is that they believe that slower traffic is better for the environment, and so they try to slow everyone on the freeway. This combined with the fact that all the limits are 10mph slower than anywhere else in the country, and it's a recipe for disaster. Lots of accidents.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
Oregon is a playground for passive-aggressive weirdos. This carries over naturally into the way that many of them drive. I wouldn't say that the accident rate was any higher than other places I have lived, but the annoyance factor was much much higher.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Clearly, you've never been to Texas.
NickH
Uber Driver
I have, and believe me, someone driving 10 under an 85 limit is significantly less annoying than someone driving 10 under a 65 limit (in Oregon) or 50 (in Portland).
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
There's annoying, then there's downright unsafe.
Oregonians (and to a lesser extent, Washingtonians) are annoying. SFO area denizens are both annoying and slightly unsafe (merging is difficult but beyond that it's cooperate/graduate).
Texans, particularly those operating pickup trucks or heavy sport utility vehicles, and especially when there's any moisture or contamination on the roads, are downright careless and reckless so as to endanger the life or property of another. For whatever reason, they don't look outside when it's time to change lanes, and that leads to epic pileups. (I once saw three multi-vehicle accidents in the course of about 2 miles between the training hotel and DFW. Visibility was fair, 3 miles or so, but the road surfaces were wet.)
Pick your poison.
Qutch
Question everything
Alright. Enough Portland bashing ! Besides AMG's claims that all Portlanders are passive aggressive, Birkenstock wearing, Volvo driving, Whole Food shopping, seed eating, environmental weirdos........ there are other slightly more scientific explanations. Let me offer another perspective. Human Factors Engineering and Urban Planning reasons. AMG, if you've spent a lot of time in Portland then you have seen the 2 inch iron rings fastened to the curbs. Those rings still remain from the days when Portland commerce was carried by horse drawn wagons.
NickH, the rings remain on downtown curbs in case you need to tie up your horse. (no joke)
Portland traffic planning engineers were way behind many other cities in urban growth boundary and road designs. They are much better at design now, but they, and Vancouver, have spent years rebuilding their infrastructure to match standards developed by other cities. For example, cramped tiny diameter circular freeway on-ramps used to provide almost no merge time, unless you were driving a sports car that could do zero to 60mph in 4 seconds (if not, drivers had to sit for days and wait for an opening in freeway traffic). Those and other covered-wagon era design flaws hindered drivers and driver development.
Some of their city bridges are very narrow because they were designed for Model T's.
Sandy River Bridge built 1912 - similar to some downtown Portland Bridges in width
Charming, but narrow (Sign says - "One Way Traffic for trucks and buses", but I know from experience that it's tight even with an SUV)
The countryside outside Portland has many many covered and other early century bridges (not something you see outside Los Angeles.)
So part of the problem Portland drivers had was caused by old road design human factors issues, many of which are not apparent to the general public. They've installed a state of the art light rail system that is taking some of the burden off the roads, and the freeway on/off ramps are being redesigned, along with slowly replacing the old poor road signage.
The new Max Light Rail System
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If someone wants to see a well engineered road system, they can move to Los Angeles. But Portland and the surrounding countryside has its charms.
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NickH
Uber Driver
There is no problem with the freeway ramps, apart from people not realizing that they should be using them to accelerate. That said, you are right, and they aren't all Volvo drivers. Lots of Prius and Subaru drivers also!
The Max would be great if the stops were more than 50 yards apart. As it is you can walk to most places faster.
The Max would be great if the stops were more than 50 yards apart. As it is you can walk to most places faster.