Nose gear malfunction landing from a few years back

I probably would have shut them down too given the [apparent] conditions. There's a point were you just have to commit to the landing anyway. Why not try to prevent a little extra damage? :dunno:
 
Cal Goat said:
I probably would have shut them down too given the [apparent] conditions. There's a point were you just have to commit to the landing anyway. Why not try to prevent a little extra damage? :dunno:
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Sure you can, but I'm curious, what is the motivating factor that makes you personally care?

Me, I'd do what the 310 pilot did in MSHunters video, cause I care about fires and not how pretty the insides of the engines look on a tear down. YMMV.
 
There's no right or wrong answer. If one wants to shutdown prior, has planned for it accordingly, has the SA to do it, and pulls it off successfully, then good for them. Im not going to judge. If on the other hand one doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, plans for that, and pulls that off successfully, then good for them too.
 
MikeD said:
There's no right or wrong answer. If one wants to shutdown prior, has planned for it accordingly, has the SA to do it, and pulls it off successfully, then good for them. Im not going to judge. If on the other hand one doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, plans for that, and pulls that off successfully, then good for them too.
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It ends up being the PIC's decision in the end, and it could make you or break you...just remember, if faced with this situation that the insurance company owns that airplane when all is said and done, so why take a chance? If I end up in the situation, personal plane or for work, I'm keeping them running until I have mains on the runway or belly on the runway. I am not worried about engines, since if I screw it up shutting them down early, I'm done career wise. Let the insurance company figure it out is my motto.

Any landing all passengers walk away from is a good one.*

* modified a quote to fit the pro pilot...
 
Stone Cold said:
It ends up being the PIC's decision in the end, and it could make you or break you...just remember, if faced with this situation that the insurance company owns that airplane when all is said and done, so why take a chance? If I end up in the situation, personal plane or for work, I'm keeping them running until I have mains on the runway or belly on the runway. I am not worried about engines, since if I screw it up shutting them down early, I'm done career wise. Let the insurance company figure it out is my motto.

Any landing all passengers walk away from is a good one.*

* modified a quote to fit the pro pilot...
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Answer is simple: Don't screw it up. If you're going to do it, don't screw it up. Earn the style points you planned for. And if you planned well, you'll do fine. That's why I don't question the decision if the guy made it alright. Who am I to judge, when he pulled it off safely? Now.....on the flipside......if he did it and ended up screwing the pooch, well that now gets into "hero or zero" territory. YMMV.
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
No points deducted for even allowing that to be a possibility?
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No, because I don't want to venture into "Minority Report" territory, whereby we're judging people on what could've possibly happened, vice what actually did happen. The whole catching criminals for crimes they may commit in the future, type thing.
 
I agree with Mike's sentiments. It's all about the final outcome IMHO......I could care less what checklists someone follows or doesn't follow, what better course of action they could have potentially taken, as long as they get the thing on deck safely. On the flipside, you can do all the procedures to the letter, waste time troubleshooting, and making a bad situation worse when you could just get the thing on the ground quickly. Troubleshooting is great when you don't have another option, but if the jet is still flying, if I can get the gear down, and if it keeps flying in the landing configuration, I'm going to land rather than test my luck in the delta pattern flipping switches, pulling CB's, and generally hoping that what I do isn't going to make things worse.
 
I'm a little late to this ballgame, but if you keep them running all the way in, what are the odds that a piece of shed prop blade comes through the cabin?
 
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