ASA/Express new identity: SureJet!

Your company also didn't go through three re-brandings in a two year period...after 'merging' another company...

Could you imagine Delta leadership sitting at a table thinking how best to "work the new Brand" into the parent company?

We've got some real clowns over here unfortunately.

I don't want to step on any toes, but what's the point of "branding" a regional in the first place?

No one books a ticket on Chautauqua or even knows what a Mesaba is. But they do book tickets on Delta.com and AA.com and end up on Colgan or Skywest or American Eagle.

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems now more than ever like a big waste of effort.
 
We are all clearly missing the point...because NONE of us know why we are "branding" anything.

We're told it's for our "mainline" partners.
 
In your heart of hearts (whatever in the world that means), do you really think the contractor cares? If it were that important to have a single "name" of sorts, they'd (a) do the flying themselves or (b) stop farming out the regional flying to every Tom, Dick and Harry that pops up with CRJ's.
 
I wonder how much money all this "branding" is costing the company? How many people have they hired for this little project?
 
I don't want to step on any toes, but what's the point of "branding" a regional in the first place?

No one books a ticket on Chautauqua or even knows what a Mesaba is. But they do book tickets on Delta.com and AA.com and end up on Colgan or Skywest or American Eagle.

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems now more than ever like a big waste of effort.

I have always thought the same thing of regional airline advertising. Pinnacle advertises their logo around baseball stadiums. I dont understand who they are trying to advertise to. United? Delta? American? Airways? I think those guys know who the regionals are. As far as a regional is concerned, they should be looking up the smallest legal size and most legal out of the way location for their logo, and thats where you stick it.
 
I wonder how much money all this "branding" is costing the company? How many people have they hired for this little project?

Probably not a lot. They made these little cards to keep, that was probably the biggest expense, followed by the snowcone stand and cotton candy maker. I doubt they paid a real marketing firm and real professionals to come up with that name. My guess is that the losses are minimal. Unless they already ordered wings, etc.
 
I don't want to step on any toes, but what's the point of "branding" a regional in the first place?

No one books a ticket on Chautauqua or even knows what a Mesaba is. But they do book tickets on Delta.com and AA.com and end up on Colgan or Skywest or American Eagle.

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems now more than ever like a big waste of effort.
I always wondered why SkyWest makes their own inflight magazines too... they are right there next to the United "Hemispheres" and SkyMall magazines.

Why?
 
I always wondered why SkyWest makes their own inflight magazines too... they are right there next to the United "Hemispheres" and SkyMall magazines.

Why?

Because like BB at RAH and JO at MAG, they want to have their 'own' airline. Their ego's won't allow anything less.
 
They seem to use it to promote destinations only they fly to with whom ever mainline flag they are flying under. I mean, yah never know when you might get the urge to goto Durango or Fort Wayne. :beer:
 
I have always thought the same thing of regional airline advertising. Pinnacle advertises their logo around baseball stadiums. I dont understand who they are trying to advertise to. United? Delta? American? Airways? I think those guys know who the regionals are. As far as a regional is concerned, they should be looking up the smallest legal size and most legal out of the way location for their logo, and thats where you stick it.

Along those lines, and with the constant pay/QOL/contract issues prevelant in the regionals, isn't there bigger fish to fry and get bent out of shape about ala management stupidity?
 
Because like BB at RAH and JO at MAG, they want to have their 'own' airline. Their ego's won't allow anything less.

I always wondered why SkyWest makes their own inflight magazines too... they are right there next to the United "Hemispheres" and SkyMall magazines.

Why?

They seem to use it to promote destinations only they fly to with whom ever mainline flag they are flying under. I mean, yah never know when you might get the urge to goto Durango or Fort Wayne. :beer:

Honestly, I think it has more to do with reaching out to who they saw as their main customers. Remember, Skywest was almost entirely a western airline until the early/mid 2000's. Even before that, they were pretty much the airline of UT/ID/MT. I thought the magazine was mostly catering to the mountain west folks who would be on SKW enough to figure out who they were actually flying on.
 
Honestly, I think it has more to do with reaching out to who they saw as their main customers. Remember, Skywest was almost entirely a western airline until the early/mid 2000's. Even before that, they were pretty much the airline of UT/ID/MT. I thought the magazine was mostly catering to the mountain west folks who would be on SKW enough to figure out who they were actually flying on.

We had an ASA magazine until not too long ago...
 
Re: ASA/Express new identity

Every once in a while something comes along that should be laugh out loud hilarious, but I just can't laugh. Honestly this would piss me off if I worked for either company. I know the company I work for is under the same umbrella as you Surejet(eww) guys, and they're huge on heritage. For that reason alone, I just can't see a Skywest Inc. airline dumping its heritage for...Surejet. Especially ASA with their long history. Really? Just. Wow.

And THEN after all this, I start to realize how much they're going to spend on the "re-branding". Sorry, guys. I facepalm with you.
 
Oh, and interesting thought about the Skywest magazine. When I went to SGU and toured the HQ, I actually brought this up to one of the marketing guys(I was shocked we had a marketing team). But what he said actually made sense to me. It was something along the lines of, "Most regionals hide behind the mainline logo painted on the tail. While the majors want the operations to be seamless, the reality is no matter how bad those regionals are, people will only complain about Delta, United, whoever. That doesn't sound like an operation who thinks they will leave the customer with anything to compliment. We put out Skywest magazine, put Skywest on all the headrests and bulkheads. We ground handle the majority of our flights above and below wing. We don't hide behind Delta or United, we are who we are, love us or hate us, our people do their best, and what you see is what you get. And we love to hear about it. You never know what the future holds, and if we ever end up going in an independent direction, we want to have built up positive public recognition".

It's worth something I guess. It did get me thinking and if I wasn't such a nerd when it came to this stuff, other than(sometimes) the safety cards I'd never know if I was on Mesaba, ASA, Pinnacle, Compass, ect. It is kinda cool I guess that when I was customer service I'd be struggling to rebook people and often hear people say "Well, doesn't Skywest fly there too?".
 
In your heart of hearts (whatever in the world that means), do you really think the contractor cares? If it were that important to have a single "name" of sorts, they'd (a) do the flying themselves or (b) stop farming out the regional flying to every Tom, Dick and Harry that pops up with CRJ's.

This:

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Vs. this:

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In your heart of hearts (whatever in the world that means), do you really think the contractor cares? If it were that important to have a single "name" of sorts, they'd (a) do the flying themselves or (b) stop farming out the regional flying to every Tom, Dick and Harry that pops up with CRJ's.

Doug, I understand this...

Which is why I'm challenging the position that it SHOULDN'T matter what our name is. However, when your employees refuse to get behind some ridiculous name...leadership has failed. This has always been sold to us as a "Combined soul" type of deal, for the "team-members" of the new company - while also being sold to US (re: employees...) as an effort to depart from a name (Atlantic Southeast Airlines [ASA]) that has an, to some people, unfavorable view by some folks inside DCI and for some of Delta's customers.

More MBA nonsense, same pig different lip stick.

The operational challenges we are facing will not disappear with a new name, no matter how ridiculous or great it is.
 
I think all the Regionals should drop the names and just use a sign...like Prince! SureJet sounds like a cheap redneck charter startup!
 
For those who were asking...

This is the actual video that is no longer available on ASA's website. It's actually a really great video... right up until the last 10 seconds. :)

For reference (as stated in this thread): Management has placed the SureJet name on hold due to immense negative feedback.

[video=youtube;_7nGu9nS6pI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7nGu9nS6pI[/video]
 
For those who were asking...

This is the actual video that is no longer available on ASA's website. It's actually a really great video... right up until the last 10 seconds. :)

For reference (as stated in this thread): Management has placed the SureJet name on hold due to immense negative feedback.

[video=youtube;_7nGu9nS6pI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7nGu9nS6pI[/video]

Looks a little like Tigerblood Sheen there! :)
 
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Don't mock it until you've laid your head in Branson, been to Silver Dollar City, visited Shepard of the Hills, and seen Yakov Smirnoff, Pat Boone, and Shoji Tabuchi.

Then you'll be justified. :)
 
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