Can the major air carriers survive without the regionals

jtrain609 said:
Costs, not wages.

Are we really so short sighted as to believe that mainline management cares what regional pilots make?
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Wages as well....mainline not regional. Having the option/threat of farming out mainline flying keeps wages at mainline low. If the DC9, mad dog, and 73 pilots cost too much, management has the option/threat of giving that flying to the regionals at lower costs. There have been lots of substitutions of 2-3 RJ's in place of 1 mainline in the recent past. This keeps a negative pressure on narrowbody mainline wages....and you could even argue that same pressure moves upward as well to the larger a/c.
 
cime_sp said:
Wages as well....mainline not regional. Having the option/threat of farming out mainline flying keeps wages at mainline low. If the DC9, mad dog, and 73 pilots cost too much, management has the option/threat of giving that flying to the regionals at lower costs. There have been lots of substitutions of 2-3 RJ's in place of 1 mainline in the recent past. This keeps a negative pressure on narrowbody mainline wages....and you could even argue that same pressure moves upward as well to the larger a/c.
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Those decisions are economically untenable on a long term basis, which mainline companies are starting to figure out, and much quicker than we are, I might add.
 
Richman said:
Haters gonna' hate....
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I had the distinct pleasure of trying to explain this phrase to a 60 year old a few days ago.

"uh, it's like how some people are never happy? Or... crap.... uhhh...expressing indifference towards someone's negativity? Aww never mind"
 
cime_sp said:
Wages as well....mainline not regional. Having the option/threat of farming out mainline flying keeps wages at mainline low. If the DC9, mad dog, and 73 pilots cost too much, management has the option/threat of giving that flying to the regionals at lower costs. There have been lots of substitutions of 2-3 RJ's in place of 1 mainline in the recent past. This keeps a negative pressure on narrowbody mainline wages....and you could even argue that same pressure moves upward as well to the larger a/c.
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But scope is evil. EVIL! :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
I had the distinct pleasure of trying to explain this phrase to a 60 year old a few days ago.

"uh, it's like how some people are never happy? Or... crap.... uhhh...expressing indifference towards someone's negativity? Aww never mind"
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"Haters gonna hate"- when someone always finds displeasure in your actions no matter how positive your actions were.

ex...Skip Bayless.
 
Doug Taylor said:
I had the distinct pleasure of trying to explain this phrase to a 60 year old a few days ago.

"uh, it's like how some people are never happy? Or... crap.... uhhh...expressing indifference towards someone's negativity? Aww never mind"
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Doug, we need to fly together at some point. We could probably cause at least a couple aneurysms between us.

Richman
 
jtrain609 said:
Those decisions are economically untenable on a long term basis, which mainline companies are starting to figure out, and much quicker than we are, I might add.
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I would agree that they are untenable in our current environment at $100-$120 oil....$60-$80 oil is a little different situation.

I'm not arguing for outsourcing....I fully agree with Doug that Scope is vital and needs to be defended. Not to mention I'm a regional captain looking to make the move once majors start hiring again. I'll pull gear for Mr Taylor when he finally upgrades!
 
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