Baggy Pants Lead To Football Player’s Arrest

Matt13C said:
Having someone with their pants around their knees is a far cry from pulling his junk out and playing with himself.

I dont see the big deal. We are a society that plasters womens half naked bodies on bill boards and aircraft (underware or swimsuits same difference), have giant multi story tall bill boards of a man in his underwear in the center of our largest city and we call it advertising. Then a guy tries to board a plane with his pants a bit lower than one person finds acceptable and all of a sudden there is an issue.

There is a large jump that needs to be made between saggy pants and whipping ones junk out on a plane. This guys dress style is no more offensive than a fat chick in spandex, much more revealing and repulsive, or a dude in the 80's wearing a half jerzee with no undershirt chest hair and fat out for all to see. The dudes pants were around his knees, if it goes un-noticed, it will still be socially unacceptable to beat it in public.
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To add. I highly doubt his pants were around his knees. That seems a bit embillished to me.
 
MikeD said:
But thats not even the point. I kind of see it as a "no shirt, no shoes, no service" thing. And to your other example, an overly fat person who obviously is an egress hazard both for himself as well as other pax, maybe the safety card should get pulled on their ability to ride vs the hazard they create.......
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So are we going to not allow fat people who cant move quick enough or maybe an elderly person who needs a walker or a disabled person who needs a wheel chair to not fly? The one large difference between him and all the other examples is, in the event ofof an evacuation, he can pull his pants up and move it as quick, in his case with his athletic ability, quicker than most anyone on the plane.

Again, non-issue. Lets move on.
 
KLB said:
To add. I highly doubt his pants were around his knees. That seems a bit embillished to me.
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Waistline around or near the knees is lower southside style, as opposed to the upper westside style which is mid-thigh level.
 
There are certain levels of dress that are not appropriate. Several of you want to get spun up because a private corporation wanted to enforce the code they established. That is legally acceptable. I didn't see any of you protesting the Atlanta City Ordinance outlawwing the said wearing of baggy pants. Remember the song, "Pants on the ground?" APD would've given him a beatdown.
 
Cptnchia said:
There are certain levels of dress that are not appropriate. Several of you want to get spun up because a private corporation wanted to enforce the code they established. That is legally acceptable. I didn't see any of you protesting the Atlanta City Ordinance outlawwing the said wearing of baggy pants. Remember the song, "Pants on the ground?" APD would've given him a beatdown.
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The airline is well within their right to not allow the person to board if he doesn't adhere to their corporate dress code, thats not the issue. The real issue is people getting up in arms about seeing the dudes underwear when we have a league of women playing football on tv in their underwear or men in commercials in nothing but their tighty whities. Why is one so unacceptable that this guy needs to be arrested and the other is so acceptable that it is being used to generate profits for corporations? obviously he was arrested for being disruptive, but it should have never got to that level. It is a non-issue made into one for no other reason than because the gate agent couldn't stand that a passenger wasn't listening to them.

The Atlanta ordinance is asinine. Clearly it was put forth by a group of cowards looking to score political points while avoiding the real problems.
 
MikeD said:
Waistline around or near the knees is lower southside style, as opposed to the upper westside style which is mid-thigh level.
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Yeah I see people rather frequently with their pants literally around there knees. No embellishment and I know how to use literally in a sentence. I don't know how they do it, but I do know they aren't going to be able to run very fast when the alien robots attack.
 
Murdoughnut said:
You're right - he just should have pulled his pants up and then STFU.
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Ehh either that or the gate agent asks, he ignores her/him and they drop it and we all move on with our lives. So the guy didnt listen, they are not his mother and it is certainly not their job to try and teach him social etiquette.

I highly doubt this is the first time a guy tried to get on a US Airways flight with saggy pants and I highly doubt that this is a regularly enforced standard. The article doesnt say anything about a passenger complaining about his pants, so the gate agent could have simply let it go. It is not like he was the Captain and he was hammered, he was a passenger and his pants were not worn properly.

I wonder if Kris Kross ever had to deal with this?

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Lookin' like a foo' wit yo pants on the ground.





Someone had to go there.
 
Murdoughnut said:
But wear does it end on the other side? Will we sit idle as someone whips out his junk and starts playing with himself just because it's a cultural fad? At the end of the day, the airline is a private business. It's a privately owned plane. They should have every right to kick someone off their flight for whatever reason they want.
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I seriously can't believe that people are okay with someone showing up to a flight with other people and having their pants hanging down off their rear end. Show some freaking respect to the people around you. The airlines have the right to refuse service, people forget that it's not a right, it's a privilege.
 
Let's remove the cultural element of it and see how dumb this whole thing is:

Golf attendant: "Oh sir, before you tee off - I should let you know that our course requires a collared shirt to play"
Golfer: "On drats - I didn't bring one with me today."
Golf attendant: "That's ok, we have one in the pro show you can borrow - let me go grab it".
Golfer: "!$%& you - I don't give a $%!# ... I'm golfing in this t-shirt ... do something about it if you want to!"
 
KLB said:
.........I don't know what race this guy was, but it's mighty interesting that some of you guys assume he's black. I invite some of you to go down to Main St. in Covington KY. I guarantee that you'd see some white guys with there pants sagging....and no shirts on. I guarantee it!
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Not too many guys that I am aware named Deshon Marman playing D1 FB that attend the University of New Mexico, who are white. Not one bit of assumption here at all....In today's day and age it's fairly simple:

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KLB said:
I don't know what race this guy was, but it's mighty interesting that some of you guys assume he's black. I invite some of you to go down to Main St. in Covington KY. I guarantee that you'd see some white guys with there pants sagging....and no shirts on. I guarantee it!
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It's not much of an assumption when his photo is in all the articles, plus his mom makes it well known this is a racial issue with a black kid with dreads.
 
KLB said:
I can see both sides of this arguement. As a captain, I wouldn't make it my job to be physically removing someone from my aircraft because someone instructed me to make a citizens arrest. If there is a problem, I'd contact the airport authority and let them handle it. There's no need in me getting my shirt wrinkled over it.

I understand that it's as simple as the guy pulling up his pants, but wear does it end. Would we ask someone wearing a turban to pull it off because we're not comfortable with that person on the airplane wearing a turban? Do I get to kick off the fat person sitting next to me because if there's an accident there's no way in the world this guys going to be able to get out of that seat in a timely manner.

I don't know what race this guy was, but it's mighty interesting that some of you guys assume he's black. I invite some of you to go down to Main St. in Covington KY. I guarantee that you'd see some white guys with there pants sagging....and no shirts on. I guarantee it!
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Excellent post. I read another much more in depth article and his mother said he was steroetyped because he was black and had dreads. My point is simple. If the initial reports are correct he was wearing lounge pants. We had a chain of off price stores and we sold a lot of "urban wear". Lounge pants and saggy jeans are a style EQUALLY valid as wranglers and s.kickers. A lot of people on this thread don't know anything of urban wear and are jacking the jaw when they no nothing of the style. It is not personally for me, and I am not sure that he doesn't what he got. But if it was an issue of lounge pants, he was provoked.
Mr Mcdoughnut- Racism isn't so blatant anymore. I've heard 3 white people utter the "N" word in my life. But I've seen racists of all colors in my life. It is a free country but you are not free to discriminate in public accommodation. Take a lesson in other cultures or please bow out of the conversation.
 
Murdoughnut said:
At the end of the day, the airline is a private business. It's a privately owned plane. They should have every right to kick someone off their flight for whatever reason they want.
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That was the exact same argument people made for voting against the civil rights act in the 60's the exact same. You are embarrassing yourself.
 
granlistillo said:
That was the exact same argument people made for voting against the civil rights act in the 60's the exact same. You are embarrassing yourself.
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Whatever - I still believe that any private business not receiving state funds or subsidies should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I may not agree with it, and I may choose to not patron that business out of protest, but I think they should still have the right to service whoever they want.
 
Doug Taylor said:
It's not race, it's an issue of style. Not that I like the style, or even that it's appropriate, but it's "Hip Hop" and various races, nationalities, genders, whatnot embrace the style. It's not race based.
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I need to relearn how to multi post reply. Sorry I do think it is about style, and should have been a non issue. But I would bet a guy wearing a ridiculous Hawaiian shirt , cowboy boots and docker chino shorts WITHOUT dreads would not have been messed with.
 
Murdoughnut said:
Whatever - I still believe that any private business not receiving state funds or subsidies should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I may not agree with it, and I may choose to not patron that business out of protest, but I think they should still have the right to service whoever they want.
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You and the oponents (the KKK) lost that one. Sorry if that offends you.
 
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