Airshow performers

azfsi60 said:
It is, but who says you "have to get to the top" to have fun at it or participate??
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Oh, I was just saying to get to the very top like Skip or Sean, it will be long and hard. I agree with you 100%. I'd like to do competitions and the local smaller airshows around here. Maybe just enough to pay for the yearly insurance and maintenance and maybe in the end come out with a little profit to fly around on. While working a full time job of course...

WacoFan said:
+1

For Mohr to do that in a stock 220 Stearman is amazing - probably more amazing to people who've flown stock Stearmans with the 220 Continental or 225 Lycoming. Duane Cole could make that Clipped T-craft do beautiful aerobatics on less horsepower than the guys flying clipped T-crafts today. BIG plus one for your post.
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I absolutely loved Mohr's performance at Sun 'n Fun last year. His act was the only act that had me cringing and gritting my teeth throughout his performance. He truly had me scared, due to him performing his routine that low. The man is amazing.

I also loved watching Skip Stewart perform in person. That was the first time I was able to see his routine and my mouth was open the entire time. Truly entertaining.
 
WacoFan said:
+1

For Mohr to do that in a stock 220 Stearman is amazing - probably more amazing to people who've flown stock Stearmans with the 220 Continental or 225 Lycoming. Duane Cole could make that Clipped T-craft do beautiful aerobatics on less horsepower than the guys flying clipped T-crafts today. BIG plus one for your post.
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It's not completely stock. If I remember right it has a five gallon header tank on it to allow limited inverted maneuvers.
 
John Mohr ftw.

When I first saw him takeoff I was like "great...another loops and rolls Stearman act." About 30 seconds and a snap roll at 100' later and my jaw fell, remaining open for the whole show.
 
azfsi60 said:
For example, someone with P-51 Mustang will get hired in a heartbeat.If you have something unique, it helps. Since not many people can afford a frickin' Mustang, that is what makes it hard to stand out and get established.
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Even the Mustang airshow scene isn't really a huge jackpot. Demos are good... but there aren't a lot of people who do them. Bring something like a T-6 to a show, and you'll probably get gas and a room.. but not too much more (unless you do a demo).
 
ryan1234 said:
Even the Mustang airshow scene isn't really a huge jackpot. Demos are good... but there aren't a lot of people who do them. Bring something like a T-6 to a show, and you'll probably get gas and a room.. but not too much more (unless you do a demo).
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Once upon a time not to long ago a buddy of mine wanted to get two T-6 Texans, overhaul the wings, for the spar issues, and do dog fight demos in them. I think it would be pretty sweet but expensive too. Don't know if it would make enough cash to be worth it. At least on what a pilot makes I can support a family and still support a Pitts or Waco habbit.
 
tlewis95 said:
John Mohr ftw.

When I first saw him takeoff I was like "great...another loops and rolls Stearman act." About 30 seconds and a snap roll at 100' later and my jaw fell, remaining open for the whole show.
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Yeah. The guy is an amazing stick.
 
Inverted25 said:
It's not completely stock. If I remember right it has a five gallon header tank on it to allow limited inverted maneuvers.
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It's mostly the 220 HP part I was talking about. Huge horsepower on lightweight planes (350+ in a small Pitts) can cover up a lot of things that a 220hp drag monster like a Stearman won't. That's all I was getting at.
 
For Christ's sake already, can we get back to talking about Airshow pilots and airshows? Please?

If not, I'm going back into my hole.
 
So what do you guys think about the T6 Idea, Do you think dueling texans would be a marketable demo for an airshow? Any one know what a T6 costs to operate.
 
Well I just learned something! I didn't realize that if you had an aircraft with over 1000 BHP you have to have a type... I always thought 12500 was the only thing that mattered
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
get two T-6 Texans, overhaul the wings, for the spar issues
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Note: there's nothing wrong with the spars on T-6s (that's the T-34 with spar issues). The Six has issues with the wing attach angles, which are rarely pulled apart in any inspections. North American is known to have issues with their extrusions produced in the WWII and following years experiencing intergranular corrosion (hence why so many Mustang restorations require new longerons). The T-6 attach angles have had the same corrosion issues as time has passed, and the dangers are only enhanced by the fatigue experienced in that area of the wing (not to mention how many T-6s have been exposed to countless applications of asymmetric G from careless aerobatic pilots...). The result was at least one fatal crash, and an emergency AD was issued 2004-ish to pull them off and inspect them.

and they were never an inspection item prior to 2004-ish.
 
Hacker15e said:
Note: there's nothing wrong with the spars on T-6s (that's the T-34 with spar issues). The Six has issues with the wing attach angles, which are rarely pulled apart in any inspections. North American is known to have issues with their extrusions produced in the WWII and following years experiencing intergranular corrosion (hence why so many Mustang restorations require new longerons). The T-6 attach angles have had the same corrosion issues as time has passed, and the dangers are only enhanced by the fatigue experienced in that area of the wing (not to mention how many T-6s have been exposed to countless applications of asymmetric G from careless aerobatic pilots...). The result was at least one fatal crash, and an emergency AD was issued 2004-ish to pull them off and inspect them.

and they were never an inspection item prior to 2004-ish.
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Thats good to know, I wonder how much more the operating costs of a T6 vs a Pitts or a Waco with a 500 hp engine on the front
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
Thats good to know, I wonder how much more the operating costs of a T6 vs a Pitts or a Waco with a 500 hp engine on the front
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Hey man, did you read that link I posted a couple of posts up? It's a good link, I learned some things. Such as, apparently it's as cheap to own and operate, if not cheaper, a L-39 as it is a T-28...

You need to go get you some time/instruction in a Super Decathlon or a Pitts sometime soon.
 
Okie_Pilot said:
Hey man, did you read that link I posted a couple of posts up? It's a good link, I learned some things. Such as, apparently it's as cheap to own and operate, if not cheaper, a L-39 as it is a T-28...

You need to go get you some time/instruction in a Super Decathlon or a Pitts sometime soon.
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The closest aero school to me is about a 3 hour drive in outside of Huntsville, I don't have the time or the money to get into there Super D right now though. I have some stearman time though, and they have a stearman for solo rental... May have to take them up on that, yes I do meet the insurance requirements.

I did get a chance to take a look at the link. I learned a lot more about the T28 than the T6 though, I will have to do some more exploring though.
 
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